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Bad thing Quote by David Benatar

“There’s such a thing as chronic pain, but there’s no such thing as chronic pleasure. ... For an existing person, the presence of bad things is bad and the presence of good things is good. But compare that with a scenario in which that person never existed—then, the absence of the bad would be…” quote by David Benatar
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““There’s such a thing as chronic pain, but there’s no such thing as chronic pleasure. ... For an existing person, the presence of bad things is bad and the presence of good things is good. But compare that with a scenario in which that person never existed—then, the absence of the bad would be good, but the absence of the good wouldn’t be bad, because there’d be nobody to be deprived of those good things.””

David Benatar

About This Quote

The quote argues that pleasure cannot be sustained indefinitely, while pain can become chronic, and uses a thought experiment about non-existence to show that the moral weight of good and bad depends on a subject's experience.

In simple terms: Pleasure is fleeting; pain can persist.

Key Takeaway

Absence of a subject nullifies moral impact.

Themes

ethics existentialism pain pleasure value theory

Mood

thoughtful provocative

Type

philosophical reflective

When to use this quote

  • philosophical debate
  • clinical pain management
  • life‑meaning discussions
  • ethical counseling

Key Concepts

subjective experience moral relevance non-existence

Practical Applications

  • bioethical policy design
  • pain‑relief research

Questions to Reflect On

  • Does the existence of a subject create moral obligations?
  • How does this view affect attitudes toward suffering?
A Different Perspective

Some argue that pleasure can be sustained through practices like mindfulness, challenging the claim of its impossibility.

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