““Kasyapa, those who conceptualize emptiness by focusing on it as emptiness I explain as those who tall away from this teaching. Kasyapa, those who have views about the person that are as big as Mount Meru are better off than those who proudly entertain views about emptiness. Why is this? Kasyapa, as emptiness means to emerge from all views, I declare that those who have views about this very emptiness are incurable.””