“We have to avoid the spiritual sickness of a self-referentia l church. It's true that when you get out into the street, as happens to every man and woman, there can be accidents. However, if the church remains closed in on itself, self-referentia l, it gets old. Between a church that suffers accidents in the street, and a church that's sick because it's self-referentia l, I have no doubts about preferring the former.”
