““Many, many years ago I interviewed Desmond Tutu, prior to the end of apartheid, about a year and a half before it ended. And he kept, in the interview, saying, “when we end apartheid,” and I kept thinking, you know, as I was listening to him, “yeah right,” you know, like, “dream on!”; I mean, I didn’t want to rain on his parade or anything, but in my heart of hearts I thought “not in your lifetime.”…And lo and behold, a year and a half later it was over. So it was really a profound lesson about what can happen when the will of people aligns.””
