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“Now let us say (a few words) to refute this doctrine also. If mind as well as external objects be unreal, who is it that knows they are so? Again, if there be nothing real in the universe, what is it that causes unreal objects to appear? We stand witness to the fact there is no one of the unreal…” quote by Kaiten Nukariya
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““Now let us say (a few words) to refute this doctrine also. If mind as well as external objects be unreal, who is it that knows they are so? Again, if there be nothing real in the universe, what is it that causes unreal objects to appear? We stand witness to the fact there is no one of the unreal things on earth that is not made to appear by something real. If there be no water of unchanging fluidity,[FN#373] how can there be the unreal and temporary forms of waves? If there be no unchanging mirror, bright and clean, how can there be various images, unreal and temporary, reflected in it? It is true in sooth that the dreaming mind as well as the things dreamed, as said above, are equally unreal, but does not that unreal dream necessarily presuppose the existence of some (real) sleepers? [FN#373] The Absolute is compared with the ocean, and the phenomenal universe with the waves. Now, if both mind and external objects, as declared above, be nothing at all, no- one can tell what it is that causes these unreal appearances. Therefore this doctrine, we know, simply serves to refute the erroneous theory held by those who are passionately attached to Dharma-laksana, but never clearly discloses spiritual Reality. So that Mahabheri-harakaparivarta-sutra[FN#374] says as follows: "All the sutras that teach the unreality of things belong to an imperfect doctrine (of the Buddha). Mahaprajnya-paramita-sutra[FN#375] says: "The doctrine of unreality is the first entrance-gate to Mahayanism.””

Kaiten Nukariya

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This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation.

The passage argues that if both mind and external objects are unreal, a real cause must exist; it critiques doctrines denying ultimate reality, using analogies of water and mirrors.

In simple terms: If nothing is real, something real must cause appearances; it challenges unreality doctrines.

Key Takeaway

Question assumptions about reality and seek underlying truths.

Themes

philosophy spirituality epistemology Buddhism metaphysics

Mood

contemplative inquisitive

Type

scriptural philosophical

When to use this quote

  • meditation
  • academic study
  • spiritual practice
  • philosophical debate
  • personal introspection

Key Concepts

non-duality causality illusion truth doctrine critique

Questions to Reflect On

  • What evidence supports a real cause behind appearances?
  • How does this view affect daily perception?
A Different Perspective

The argument relies on abstract reasoning that may not resonate with empirical skeptics.

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