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“Even more interesting perhaps is the gallery of Roman ladies, whose portraits are limned with so fine and discriminating a touch. Juvenal again is responsible for much misconception as to the part the women of Rome played in Roman society. The appalling Sixth Satire, in which he unhesitatingly…” quote by Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus Pliny the Younger
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““Even more interesting perhaps is the gallery of Roman ladies, whose portraits are limned with so fine and discriminating a touch. Juvenal again is responsible for much misconception as to the part the women of Rome played in Roman society. The appalling Sixth Satire, in which he unhesitatingly declares that most women — if not all — are bad, and that virtue and chastity are so rare as to be almost unknown, in which he roundly accuses them of all the vices known to human depravity, reads like a monstrous and disgraceful libel on the sex when one turns to Pliny and makes the acquaintance of Arria, Fannia, Corellia, and Calpurnia. The characters of Arria and Fannia are well known; they are among the heroines of history. But in Pliny there are numerous references to women whose names are not even known to us, but the terms in which they are referred to prove what sweet, womanly lives they led. For example, he writes to Geminus: “Our friend Macrinus has suffered a grievous wound. He has lost his wife, who would have been regarded as a model of all the virtues even if she had lived in the good old days. He lived with her for thirty-nine years, without so much as a single quarrel or disagreement.” “Vixit cum hac triginta novem annis sine jurgio, sine offensa. One is reminded of the fine line of Propertius, in which Cornelia boasts of the blameless union of herself and her husband, Paullus — “Viximus insignes inter utramque facem.” This is no isolated example. One of the most pathetic letters is that in which Pliny writes of the death of the younger daughter of his friend Fundanus, a girl in her fifteenth year, who had already “the prudence of age, the gravity of a matron, and all the maidenly modesty and sweetness of a girl.” Pliny tells us how it cut him to the quick to hear her father give directions that the money he had meant to lay out on dresses and pearls and jewels for her betrothal should be spent on incense, unguents, and spices for her bier. What a different picture from anything we find in Juvenal, who would fain have us believe that Messalina was the type of the average Roman matron of his day! Such””

Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus Pliny the Younger

About This Quote

This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation.

Pliny's letters reveal both the moral judgments of Roman women and the nuanced, often overlooked lives of many, highlighting the disparity between public perception and private virtue.

In simple terms: Historical letters expose gender bias and hidden virtues.

Key Takeaway

Recognize unseen contributions.

Themes

history gender virtue

Mood

reflective analytical

Type

Fine line:1 Good old days:0 Well known:0 Roman Ladies:0 Girl Pliny:0 Pliny Writes:0 Pliny Tells:0 Women Rome:0

When to use this quote

  • academic study
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  • cultural discussions

Key Concepts

Roman society literature social norms women's roles

Questions to Reflect On

  • How do we honor forgotten voices?
  • What lessons arise from past biases?
A Different Perspective

Ancient perspectives may not fully apply today.

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