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Community Quote by Wael B. Hallaq

“If we live in a world of states, and if out-of-state existence is impossible, then we all must live as national citizens. We are the nation, and the nation is us. This is as fundamental as it is an inescapable reality. Nationalism engulfs both the individual and the collective; it produces the 'I'…” quote by Wael B. Hallaq
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““If we live in a world of states, and if out-of-state existence is impossible, then we all must live as national citizens. We are the nation, and the nation is us. This is as fundamental as it is an inescapable reality. Nationalism engulfs both the individual and the collective; it produces the 'I' and 'We' dialectically and separately. Not only does nationalism produce the community and its individual members: it is itself the community and its realized individual subjects, for without these there is no nationalism. "Leading sociologists and philosophers have emphasized the pervasive presence of the community in individual consciousnesses, where the social bond is an essential part of the self. It is not only that the 'I' is a member of the 'We,' but, more importantly, that the 'We' is a necessary member of the 'I.' It is an axiom of sociological theory, writes Scheler, that all human knowledge 'precedes levels of self-contagiousness of one's self-value. There is no "I" without "We." The "We" is filled with contents prior to the "I." ' Likewise, Mannheim emphasizes ideas and thought structures as functions of social relations that exist within the group, excluding the possibility of any ideas arising independently of socially shared meanings. The social reality of nationalism not only generates meanings but is itself a 'context of meaning'; hence our insistence that nationalism constitutes and is constituted by the community as a social order. 'It is senseless to pose questions such as whether the mind is socially determined, as though the mind and society each posses a substance of their own' [citing Pressler and Dasilva's Sociology]. The profound implications of the individual's embeddedness in the national community is that the community's ethos is prior and therefore historically determinative of all socioepistemic phenomena. And if thought structures are predetermined by intellectual history, by society's inheritance of historical forms of knowledge, then those structures are also a priori predetermined by the linguistic structures in which this history is enveloped, cast, and framed. Like law, nationalism is everywhere: it creates the community and shapes world history even before nationalism comes into it.””

Wael B. Hallaq

About This Quote

Source Book: The Sociology of Nationalism, 2020

National identity is formed through the mutual shaping of individual self‑concepts and the collective community, making the “I” and “We” inseparable.

In simple terms: People and societies define each other.

Key Takeaway

Recognize how community shapes personal identity.

Themes

identity community nationalism social theory

Mood

reflective critical

Type

philosophical analytical

When to use this quote

  • political discourse
  • education curricula
  • media narratives
  • public policy
  • community organizing

Key Concepts

collective consciousness social constructionism dialectical identity

Questions to Reflect On

  • How does your sense of self depend on your nation?
  • Can community identity be re‑imagined?
A Different Perspective

Overemphasis on collective can suppress individual autonomy.

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