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Ambassadors Quote by Lysander Spooner

“The 'nations,' as they are called, with whom our pretended ambassadors, secretaries, presidents, and senators profess to make treaties, are as much myths as our own. On general principles of law and reason, there are no such 'nations.' ... Our pretended treaties, then, being made with no…” quote by Lysander Spooner
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“The 'nations,' as they are called, with whom our pretended ambassadors, secretaries, presidents, and senators profess to make treaties, are as much myths as our own. On general principles of law and reason, there are no such 'nations.' ... Our pretended treaties, then, being made with no legitimate or bona fide nations, or representatives of nations, and being made, on our part, by persons who have no legitimate authority to act for us, have intrinsically no more validity than a pretended treaty made by the Man in the Moon with the king of the Pleiades.”

Lysander Spooner

About This Quote

Source Essay: *No Treason* by Lysander Spooner, 1869

Sovereign entities are constructs; treaties with imagined nations lack legitimacy, similar to fanciful agreements with celestial beings.

In simple terms: Imagined nations make invalid treaties.

Key Takeaway

Question the legitimacy of authority.

Themes

politics law sovereignty

Mood

critical philosophical

Type

political skeptical

When to use this quote

  • diplomatic negotiations
  • policy making
  • legal analysis

Key Concepts

legitimacy authority international law

Questions to Reflect On

  • Do you accept authority without proof?
  • What defines a legitimate nation?
A Different Perspective

Real‑world treaties involve recognized parties, making the analogy imperfect.

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