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“There are people who fantasize about suicide, and paradoxically, these fantasies can be soothing because they usually involve either fantasizing about others' reactions to one's suicide or imagining how death would be a relief from life's travails. In both cases, an aspect of the fantasy is to…” quote by Thomas Joiner
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““There are people who fantasize about suicide, and paradoxically, these fantasies can be soothing because they usually involve either fantasizing about others' reactions to one's suicide or imagining how death would be a relief from life's travails. In both cases, an aspect of the fantasy is to exert control, either over others' views or toward life's difficulties. The writer A. Alvarez stated, " There people ... for whom the mere idea of suicide is enough; they can continue to function efficiently and even happily provided they know they have their own, specially chosen means of escape always ready..." In her riveting 2008 memoir of bipolar disorder, Manic, Terri Cheney opened the book by stating, "People... don't understand that when you're seriously depressed, suicidal ideation can be the only thing that keeps you alive. Just knowing there's an out--even if it's bloody, even if it's permanent--makes the pain bearable for one more day." This strategy appears to be effective for some people, but only for a while. Over longer periods, fantasizing about death leaves people more depressed and thus at higher risk for suicide, as Eddie Selby, Mike Amestis, and I recently showed in a study on violent daydreaming. A strategy geared toward increased feelings of self-control (fantasizing about the effects of one's suicide) "works" momentarily, but ultimately backfires by undermining feelings of genuine self-control in the long run.””

Thomas Joiner

About This Quote

This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation.

Suicidal fantasies can provide temporary relief by offering perceived control, but they ultimately increase depression and risk over time.

In simple terms: Suicidal fantasies give temporary control but worsen depression long-term.

Key Takeaway

Seek healthier coping strategies.

Themes

mental health suicidal ideation control temporary relief long-term risk

Mood

somber analytical cautious

Type

Bipolar disorder:1 Death:1 Life:1 Long run:1 Psychology:1 Suicidal-ideation:1 Suicide:1 Suicidal Ideation:1 Suicide Imagining:1 Fantasize Suicide:1 Fantasizing Death:1 Control Fantasizing:1

When to use this quote

  • therapy
  • support groups
  • risk management
  • personal reflection

Key Concepts

psychological coping risk assessment clinical observation

Questions to Reflect On

  • How can one replace harmful fantasies with constructive coping?
  • What role does perceived control play in mental health?
A Different Perspective

May oversimplify complex mental health experiences.

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