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Buddha initially excluded women from his monasteries. When…

“Buddha initially excluded women from his monasteries. When pressed, he made their entry conditional upon perpetual subservience to the lowliest (newest) male monks. Was this an example of unchanging wisdom? Or were some of his ideas not so enlightened, but rather a function of his place in…” quote by Joel Kramer Diana Astad
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““Buddha initially excluded women from his monasteries. When pressed, he made their entry conditional upon perpetual subservience to the lowliest (newest) male monks. Was this an example of unchanging wisdom? Or were some of his ideas not so enlightened, but rather a function of his place in history? His agenda to end suffering has had millennia to test itself and has failed. Are people just not good enough or smart enough? Is there something wrong with people or is something wrong with the agenda? His methodology for ending suffering was tied to the concept of enlightenment, which involves renouncing both the self and self-centeredness. So as an essentially renunciate religion, Buddhism is also essentially authoritarian, with Buddha being the absolute authority on what to renounce and how to go about it. Some modern Buddhists would bristle at calling Buddhism renunciate. They would say that through dis-identifying or detaching from the illusion that there is a self, self-centeredness effortlessly leaves. We view this as their illusion.””

Joel Kramer Diana Astad

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This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation.

Buddhism’s historical gender restrictions reflect cultural context, questioning its claim of universal enlightenment.

In simple terms: Historical bias challenges Buddhist universality.

Key Takeaway

Critically assess religious teachings.

Themes

religion gender history enlightenment authority

Mood

analytical critical thoughtful

Type

Buddhism:1 Burn:0 Enlightenment:1 Good enough:0 Sick:0 Buddhism Essentially:0 Buddhism Renunciate:0 Authoritarian Buddha:0 Enlightenment Involves:0 Monks Example:0

When to use this quote

  • academic study
  • interfaith dialogue
  • personal belief
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Key Concepts

philosophy sociology critical theory

Questions to Reflect On

  • How do cultural norms shape religious doctrines?
  • Can enlightenment be gender‑neutral?
A Different Perspective

Historical context may not apply today.

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