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I began to think of war, even so-called "good wars" like…

“I began to think of war, even so-called "good wars" like World War II, as corrupting everybody. Violence begetting violence. The good guys beginning to act like the bad guys. And when I studied the history of wars, it seemed to me that that was the case. Athens vs. Sparta in the Peloponnesian War…” quote by Howard Zinn
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“I began to think of war, even so-called "good wars" like World War II, as corrupting everybody. Violence begetting violence. The good guys beginning to act like the bad guys. And when I studied the history of wars, it seemed to me that that was the case. Athens vs. Sparta in the Peloponnesian War. The Athenians presumably the democratic state. The Spartans the totalitarian state. But as the war went on, the Athenians began to act like the Spartans. They began committing atrocities and cruelties. So I saw this as a characteristic of war, even so-called "good wars."”

Howard Zinn

About This Quote

This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation.

War, even those deemed just, tends to corrupt participants, turning good actors into perpetrators of similar atrocities.

In simple terms: War can make good people act badly.

Key Takeaway

Be wary of war’s corrupting influence.

Themes

war ethics history

Mood

critical thoughtful

Type

philosophical historical

When to use this quote

  • military service
  • political activism
  • historical analysis
  • peace advocacy

Key Concepts

moral decay cycle of violence political power

Questions to Reflect On

  • Can war ever be truly just?
  • How can societies prevent moral decline in conflict?
A Different Perspective

Some wars may have defensive necessity; context matters.

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