I think also, obviously, having someone like Lucas [Goodman], and the people around me are very, not gender-driven or any of that, so when we come in as thing, that's what it is. You can work with us or not… — Jillian Hervey Copy Share Image
![“I think also, obviously, having someone like Lucas [Goodman], and the people around me are very, not gender-driven or any of that, so when we come in as thing, that's what it is. You can work with us or not work with us and I think that has been helpful. I don't try to put myself in a vulnerable…” quote by Jillian Hervey](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/img-quotes/2c6/jillian-hervey-5299_driven_i-think-also-obviously-having-someone-li_2020286.jpg)