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…money and honour have no attraction for them; good men do…

“…money and honour have no attraction for them; good men do not wish to be openly demanding payment for governing and so to get the name of hirelings, nor by secretly helping themselves out of the public revenues to get the name of thieves. And not being ambitious they do not care about honour…” quote by Socrates
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““…money and honour have no attraction for them; good men do not wish to be openly demanding payment for governing and so to get the name of hirelings, nor by secretly helping themselves out of the public revenues to get the name of thieves. And not being ambitious they do not care about honour. Wherefore necessity must be laid upon them, and they must be induced to serve from the fear of punishment. And this, as I imagine, is the reason why the forwardness to take office, instead of waiting to be compelled, has been deemed dishonourable. Now the worst part of the punishment is that he who refuses to rule is liable to be ruled by one who is worse than himself. And the fear of this, as I conceive, induces the good to take office, not because they would, but because they cannot help — not under the idea that they are going to have any benefit or enjoyment themselves, but as a necessity, and because they are not able to commit the task of ruling to any one who is better than themselves, or indeed as good. For there is reason to think that if a city were composed entirely of good men, then to avoid office would be as much an object of contention as to obtain office is at present…””

Socrates

About This Quote

This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation.

Good people avoid leadership unless forced, because they lack desire for honor or profit, and fear worse rulers.

In simple terms: Good people only lead when compelled, not for reward.

Key Takeaway

Encourage duty over personal gain.

Themes

politics leadership ethics duty honor

Mood

reflective serious

Type

philosophical political

When to use this quote

  • government appointments
  • public office
  • civic duty
  • preventing tyranny

Key Concepts

public service coercion moral responsibility

Questions to Reflect On

  • What motivates you to serve others?
  • How can societies reduce reliance on fear?
A Different Perspective

Assumes all leaders are inherently good, ignoring self‑interest.

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