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“There is a wonderful passage in the Odyssey where Odysseus meets the ghost of Achilles in Hades. They are profoundly courteous to each other. Odysseus, outlining his own toils, reminds Achilles that the supreme honor which the latter receives from all makes light of death; but Achilles…” quote by Cedric H Whitman
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“There is a wonderful passage in the Odyssey where Odysseus meets the ghost of Achilles in Hades. They are profoundly courteous to each other. Odysseus, outlining his own toils, reminds Achilles that the supreme honor which the latter receives from all makes light of death; but Achilles, complimenting Odysseus on the magnificence of his adventures, answers that there is no consolation in death, for it is better to be the living slave of a poor man than king of all the dead. Yet, it is hard to imagine Achilles as the slave of a poor man, and hard to believe that he is speaking a literal truth. He is emphasizing the cost of his greatness, the incurable sorrow of being Achilles. He is saying, "I have suffered the wrost, and identified myself with it; you have merely survived. And Odysseus, for his part, says: "you are very honored indeed, but you are dead; I am doing the really difficult and great thing." In the gulf between the two men, and their characteristic views of life, in a few lin”

Cedric H Whitman

About This Quote

This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation.

Achilles and Odysseus discuss honor, death, and the burden of greatness, revealing differing values.

In simple terms: Greatness carries sorrow; living is preferable to hollow glory.

Key Takeaway

Consider the cost of ambition.

Themes

honor mortality heroism

Mood

reflective philosophical

Type

literary ethical

When to use this quote

  • literary analysis
  • philosophical discussion
  • teaching ethics

Key Concepts

Greek epic philosophical dialogue

Questions to Reflect On

  • How do we balance fame with personal fulfillment?
  • What does true honor mean in modern life?
A Different Perspective

The dialogue is a literary device, not a literal historical account.

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