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“Or could one seriously introduce the idea of a bad God, as it were by the back door, through a sort of extreme Calvinism? You could say we are fallen and depraved. We are so depraved that our ideas of goodness count for nothing; or worse than nothing—the very fact that we think something good is…” quote by Austin Fischer
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““Or could one seriously introduce the idea of a bad God, as it were by the back door, through a sort of extreme Calvinism? You could say we are fallen and depraved. We are so depraved that our ideas of goodness count for nothing; or worse than nothing—the very fact that we think something good is presumptive evidence that it is really bad. Now God has in fact—our worse fears are true—all the characteristics we regard as bad: unreasonableness, vanity, vindictiveness, injustice, cruelty. But all these blacks (as they seem to us) are really whites. It’s only our depravity that makes them look black to us. And so what? This, for all practical (and speculative) purposes, sponges God off the slate. The word good, applied to him, becomes meaningless: like abracadabra. We have no motive for obeying him. Not even fear. It is true we have his threats and promises. But why should we believe them? If cruelty is from his point of view “good,” telling lies may be “good” too. Even if they are true, what then? If his ideas of good are so very different from ours, what he calls Heaven might well be what we should call Hell, and vice-versa. Finally, if reality at its root is so meaningless to us—or, putting it the other way round, if we are such total imbeciles—what is the point of trying to think either about God or about anything else? This knot comes undone when you try to pull it tight.41””

Austin Fischer

About This Quote

This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation.

The argument suggests that if God’s nature is opposite to human morality, concepts of good and evil become meaningless, undermining obedience.

In simple terms: If divine morality is inverted, moral language loses meaning.

Key Takeaway

Question the basis of moral authority.

Themes

theology morality philosophy skepticism

Mood

skeptical thoughtful

Type

philosophical theological

When to use this quote

  • personal belief
  • ethical decision making
  • religious discourse
  • academic debate

Key Concepts

theodicy relativism existential doubt

Questions to Reflect On

  • Can morality exist without a divine source?
  • What guides ethical behavior in a secular world?
A Different Perspective

The view may ignore practical ethics that function regardless of divine intent.

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