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“Though good and bad men suffer alike, we must not suppose that there is no difference between the men themselves, because there is no difference in what they both suffer. For even in the likeness of the sufferings, there remains an unlikeness in the sufferers; and though exposed to the same…” quote by Augustine of Hippo
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““Though good and bad men suffer alike, we must not suppose that there is no difference between the men themselves, because there is no difference in what they both suffer. For even in the likeness of the sufferings, there remains an unlikeness in the sufferers; and though exposed to the same anguish, virtue and vice are not the same thing. For as the same fire causes gold to glow brightly, and chaff to smoke; and under the same flail the straw is beaten small, while the grain is cleansed; and as the lees are not mixed with the oil, though squeezed out of the vat by the same pressure, so the same violence of affliction proves, purges, clarifies the good, but damns, ruins, exterminates the wicked.””

Augustine of Hippo

About This Quote

This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation.

Suffering distinguishes virtue from vice; the same hardship refines good but destroys evil.

In simple terms: Pain separates good from bad people.

Key Takeaway

Seek moral growth through trials.

Themes

ethics theodicy human nature

Mood

reflective serious

Type

theological philosophical

When to use this quote

  • prison reform
  • addiction recovery
  • war trauma counseling
  • personal adversity

Key Concepts

philosophy of suffering Christian doctrine

Questions to Reflect On

  • What makes suffering redemptive?
  • How do we support those who suffer?
A Different Perspective

Not all suffering leads to virtue.

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