--- title: "Meaning & Key Takeaway of: It is true (independently of our…" description: "\"It is true (independently of our conceptualisation) that it is wrong to inflict pain on a sentient creature for no reason (she doesn't deserve it, I ha..." image: "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/490/torbjorn-tannsjo-12405_accepting_it-is-true-independently-of-our-conceptu_3141031.jpg" --- # It is true (independently of our conceptualisation) that… ![“It is true (independently of our conceptualisation) that it is wrong to inflict pain on a sentient creature for no reason (she doesn't deserve it, I haven't promised to do it, it is not helpful to this creature or to anyone else if I do it, and so forth). But if this is a truth, existing…” quote by Torbjorn Tannsjo](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/490/torbjorn-tannsjo-12405_accepting_it-is-true-independently-of-our-conceptu_3141031.jpg) [Download](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/490/torbjorn-tannsjo-12405_accepting_it-is-true-independently-of-our-conceptu_3141031.jpg) [Open image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/490/torbjorn-tannsjo-12405_accepting_it-is-true-independently-of-our-conceptu_3141031.jpg) > “It is true (independently of our conceptualisation) that it is wrong to inflict pain on a sentient creature for no reason (she doesn't deserve it, I haven't promised to do it, it is not helpful to this creature or to anyone else if I do it, and so forth). But if this is a truth, existing independently of our conceptualisation, then at least one moral fact (this one) exists and moral realism is true. We have to accept this, I submit, unless we can find strong reasons to think otherwise.” [Torbjorn Tannsjo](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/torbjorn-tannsjo/) ## About This Quote This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation. If pain without reason is wrong, then objective moral facts exist, supporting moral realism. **In simple terms:** Painful harm is objectively wrong, proving moral facts. Key Takeaway Recognize and respect inherent moral truths. Themes ethics objective morality animal rights Mood thoughtful serious Type philosophical ethical When to use this quote - animal welfare legislation - medical research ethics - personal dietary choices Key Concepts moral realism philosophical ethics Questions to Reflect On - Is it possible to have universally accepted moral facts? - How do we balance moral realism with cultural diversity? 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There exists a true answer…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/torbjorn-tannsjo/i-believe-that-one-basic-question-what-we-ought-to-do-period-the/) [Torbjorn Tannsjo](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/torbjorn-tannsjo/) [Explore all 55 Torbjorn Tannsjo quotes ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/torbjorn-tannsjo/) ## More Accepting quotes > [From Augustine down, theologians have tried to compel people to accept their special interpretation of the Scripture, and the tortures of the inquisition, the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/matilda-joslyn-gage/from-augustine-down-theologians-have-tried-to-compel-people-to-accept/) [Matilda Joslyn Gage](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/matilda-joslyn-gage/) > [Laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing! It is the jester! A voice from the Void, to cheer poor Cicero! 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