--- title: "Meaning & Key Takeaway of: I was doing an interview with Charlie…" description: "\"I was doing an interview with Charlie Rose and he said, \"What do you think about Margaret Thatcher?\" - and I had not heard she had died at this point -..." image: "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/383/gregory-doran-30201_interesting_i-was-doing-an-interview-with-charlie-ro_1983261.jpg" --- # I was doing an interview with Charlie Rose and he said… ![“I was doing an interview with Charlie Rose and he said, "What do you think about Margaret Thatcher?" - and I had not heard she had died at this point - and he said, "Is there any kind of Shakespearian overtone here?" I said, "Well, actually, Julius Caesar, because ever if a politician was stabbed…” quote by Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/383/gregory-doran-30201_interesting_i-was-doing-an-interview-with-charlie-ro_1983261.jpg) [Download](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/383/gregory-doran-30201_interesting_i-was-doing-an-interview-with-charlie-ro_1983261.jpg) [Open image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/383/gregory-doran-30201_interesting_i-was-doing-an-interview-with-charlie-ro_1983261.jpg) > “I was doing an interview with Charlie Rose and he said, "What do you think about Margaret Thatcher?" - and I had not heard she had died at this point - and he said, "Is there any kind of Shakespearian overtone here?" I said, "Well, actually, Julius Caesar, because ever if a politician was stabbed in the back, it was Mrs. Thatcher, by all her conspiratorial cabinet, which really did just stab her in the back." It's a rather interesting resonance.” [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) ## About This Quote This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation. The speaker likens Thatcher’s political downfall to a Shakespearean betrayal, emphasizing internal treachery over external attack. **In simple terms:** Thatcher was betrayed by her own cabinet. Key Takeaway Beware internal betrayal. Themes politics betrayal history Mood reflective analytical Type historical political When to use this quote - government leadership - party dynamics - historical analysis Key Concepts Shakespearean analogy political intrigue Questions to Reflect On - Who in your organization could betray you? - How do you differentiate internal vs external threats? A Different Perspective Shakespearean focus may overlook policy complexities. ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ No ratings yet [Interesting](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/interesting/) [Julius](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/julius/) [Julius Caesar](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/julius-caesar/) [Kind](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/kind/) [Margaret thatcher](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/margaret-thatcher/) [Politician](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/politician/) [Rose](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/rose/) [Rose Said](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/rose-said-620373/) [Stab Interesting](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/stab-interesting-3397212/) [Thatcher Conspiratorial](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/thatcher-conspiratorial-3397211/) [Thatcher Heard](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/thatcher-heard-3397213/) [Thinking](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/thinking/) ## Related quotes > [Really what Brutus and Cassius do by assassinating Caesar, is open up a vacuum into which much more ruthless people run. Julius Caesar is…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/really-what-brutus-and-cassius-do-by-assassinating-caesar-is-open-up/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [The list of potential candidates for Julius Caesar is quite large. You could go, "Well, he's a Caesar." Idi Amin, or Bokassa in the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/the-list-of-potential-candidates-for-julius-caesar-is-quite-large-you/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [I have seen productions of Julius Caesar that set it in a modern, Western context and it just looks as though they're getting rid…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-have-seen-productions-of-julius-caesar-that-set-it-in-a-modern/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [I don't think Vladimir Putin goes to the theater enough to even deign to think there was any criticism intended. We were invited by…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-don-t-think-vladimir-putin-goes-to-the-theater-enough-to-even-deign/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [ He \[Julius Caesar\] learned that Alexander , having completed nearly all his conquests by the time he was thirty-two years old, was at an… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/augustus/he-julius-caesar-learned-that-alexander-having-completed-nearly-all/) [Augustus](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/augustus/) > [In his fifty-six years he was at times many things, including a fugitive, prisoner, rising politician, army leader, legal advocate, rebel, dictator – perhaps…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/adrian-goldsworthy/in-his-fifty-six-years-he-was-at-times-many-things-including-a/) [Adrian Goldsworthy](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/adrian-goldsworthy/) > [Epilepsy is a disease in the shadows. Patients are often reluctant to admit their condition - even to close family, friends or co-workers -…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/lynda-resnick/epilepsy-is-a-disease-in-the-shadows-patients-are-often-reluctant-to/) [Lynda Resnick](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/lynda-resnick/) > [The historicity of Christ is as axiomatic for an unbiased historian as the historicity of Julius Caesar.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/f-f-bruce/the-historicity-of-christ-is-as-axiomatic-for-an-unbiased-historian/) [F. F. Bruce](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/f-f-bruce/) > [We applied a very simple principle: Recognize the facts. Abortion is old as the world. Gay marriage, please - it's older than the world.…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/jose-mujica/we-applied-a-very-simple-principle-recognize-the-facts-abortion-is/) [Jose Mujica](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/jose-mujica/) > [While trying to protect the republic, the conspirators in Julius Caesar enable Mark Antony to triumph. In Rose Rage, the more Henry VI tries…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/edward-hall/while-trying-to-protect-the-republic-the-conspirators-in-julius/) [Edward Hall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/edward-hall/) > [I was nine. I saw Orson Welles in 'Julius Caesar.' It was involving, emotional, imaginative. I've never forgotten it.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/harold-prince/i-was-nine-i-saw-orson-welles-in-julius-caesar-it-was-involving/) [Harold Prince](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/harold-prince/) > [Mere opinions, in fact, were as likely to govern people's actions as hard evidence, and were subject to sudden reversals as hard evidence could…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kurt-vonnegut/mere-opinions-in-fact-were-as-likely-to-govern-people-s-actions-as/) [Kurt Vonnegut](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kurt-vonnegut/) > [The Canadian version of Julius Caesar's memoirs? I came, I saw, I coped.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/clive-james/the-canadian-version-of-julius-caesar-s-memoirs-i-came-i-saw-i-coped/) [Clive James](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/clive-james/) > [All democracies turn into dictatorships - but not by coup. The people give their democracy to a dictator, whether it's Julius Caesar or Napoleon…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/george-lucas/all-democracies-turn-into-dictatorships-but-not-by-coup-the-people/) [George Lucas](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/george-lucas/) > [Homer, Hesiod, Pythagoras, Plato, and Cicero, just to name a few, all lived in pagan societies. Some of the greatest political and military leaders…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/brendan-myers/homer-hesiod-pythagoras-plato-and-cicero-just-to-name-a-few-all-lived/) [Brendan Myers](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/brendan-myers/) ## More by Gregory Doran > [I have seen productions of Julius Caesar that set it in a modern, Western context and it just looks as though they're getting rid…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-have-seen-productions-of-julius-caesar-that-set-it-in-a-modern/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [Sometimes the parallels that are brought in can make the play seem less relevant; you can deny a play's application to the universal by…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/sometimes-the-parallels-that-are-brought-in-can-make-the-play-seem/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [I guess, is we are not saying, "Look, William Shakespeare's written a critique of modern Africa." What we're saying is that we've shifted the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-guess-is-we-are-not-saying-look-william-shakespeare-s-written-a/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [I think William Shakespeare's like a passport through your life: as a kid hearing about a play with fairies or witches or ghosts, you…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-think-william-shakespeare-s-like-a-passport-through-your-life-as-a/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [I don't think Vladimir Putin goes to the theater enough to even deign to think there was any criticism intended. We were invited by…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-don-t-think-vladimir-putin-goes-to-the-theater-enough-to-even-deign/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [Sometimes it can get overburdened with nuance - the actors find all sorts of different spins on the lines that can lose simplicity and…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/sometimes-it-can-get-overburdened-with-nuance-the-actors-find-all/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [King Lear by William Shakespeare frightens me. I've never done King Lear, I guess partially because my father dwindled into dementia in his last…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/king-lear-by-william-shakespeare-frightens-me-i-ve-never-done-king/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [The list of potential candidates for Julius Caesar is quite large. You could go, "Well, he's a Caesar." Idi Amin, or Bokassa in the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/the-list-of-potential-candidates-for-julius-caesar-is-quite-large-you/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [I always feel emotionally engaged in productions. If I ever get to the point where I don't feel emotionally engaged, maybe I should stop.…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-always-feel-emotionally-engaged-in-productions-if-i-ever-get-to-the/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [By the time I came of age and, indeed, Margaret Thatcher became prime minister, I had seen the entire William Shakespeare canon, which, in…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/by-the-time-i-came-of-age-and-indeed-margaret-thatcher-became-prime/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [Really what Brutus and Cassius do by assassinating Caesar, is open up a vacuum into which much more ruthless people run. Julius Caesar is…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/really-what-brutus-and-cassius-do-by-assassinating-caesar-is-open-up/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [At the assassination of Caesar when Cassius says, "How many ages hence shall this our lofty scene be acted over in states unborn and…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/at-the-assassination-of-caesar-when-cassius-says-how-many-ages-hence/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [I went to a Jesuit school and they did a William Shakespeare play every year. I got to know Shakespeare as parts I wanted…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-went-to-a-jesuit-school-and-they-did-a-william-shakespeare-play/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [My first interaction with William Shakespeare was an American production and there was an actress, playing Puck, who sounded like Mickey Mouse. When she…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/my-first-interaction-with-william-shakespeare-was-an-american/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) > [There's a wonderful author named Can Themba, who said that Africa extends a fraternal handshake to Shakespeare. That William Shakespeare would have recognized Elizabethan…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/there-s-a-wonderful-author-named-can-themba-who-said-that-africa/) [Gregory Doran](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) [Explore all 17 Gregory Doran quotes ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/) ## More Interesting quotes > [Sometimes a sign or a quote is simply interesting by itself and does not require anything beyond being framed on a page.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/stephen-vincent-benet/sometimes-a-sign-or-a-quote-is-simply-interesting-by-itself-and-does/) [Stephen Vincent Benet](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/stephen-vincent-benet/) > [I love casting against type and doing things you wouldn't expect, because I think you get more interesting performances that way. Hollywood loves to…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/david-s-goyer/i-love-casting-against-type-and-doing-things-you-wouldn-t-expect/) [David S. Goyer](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/david-s-goyer/) > [It can sometimes make people fold into themselves and kind of run away, but I think in this case these characters are being forced…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/emily-deschanel/it-can-sometimes-make-people-fold-into-themselves-and-kind-of-run/) [Emily Deschanel](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/emily-deschanel/) > [The faster you go, the shorter you are.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/albert-einstein/the-faster-you-go-the-shorter-you-are/) [Albert Einstein](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/albert-einstein/) > [A lot of people have been saying 'The 100' reminds them of 'Lord Of The Flies,' 'Lost' and 'Battlestar Galactica,' and all of those…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/marie-avgeropoulos/a-lot-of-people-have-been-saying-the-100-reminds-them-of-lord-of-the/) [Marie Avgeropoulos](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/marie-avgeropoulos/) > [... Arthur Gride, whose bleared eyes gloated only over the outward beauties, and were blind to the spirit which reigned within, evinced - a…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/charles-dickens/arthur-gride-whose-bleared-eyes-gloated-only-over-the-outward/) [Charles Dickens](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/charles-dickens/) > [It is sort of interesting that in our society this days we are very quick to apply the term 'war' to places where thare…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/bruce-schneier/it-is-sort-of-interesting-that-in-our-society-this-days-we-are-very/) [Bruce Schneier](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/bruce-schneier/) > [If you do a black character or a female character or an Asian character, then they aren't just that character. They represent that race…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/dwayne-mcduffie/if-you-do-a-black-character-or-a-female-character-or-an-asian/) [Dwayne McDuffie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/dwayne-mcduffie/) > [We're wired to expect the world to be brighter and more meaningful and more obviously interesting than it actually is. And when we realize…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/lev-grossman/we-re-wired-to-expect-the-world-to-be-brighter-and-more-meaningful/) [Lev Grossman](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/lev-grossman/) > [Failure or success seems to have been allotted to men by their stars. But they retain the power of wriggling, of fighting with their…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/anonymous/failure-or-success-seems-to-have-been-allotted-to-men-by-their-stars/) [Anonymous](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/anonymous/) > [Life can be difficult sometimes, it gets bumpy. What with family and kids and things not going exactly like you planned. But that's what…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/joyce-van-patten/life-can-be-difficult-sometimes-it-gets-bumpy-what-with-family-and/) [Joyce Van Patten](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/joyce-van-patten/) > [Here are the good things about independent films: They do the more interesting, chancy scripts. They're run by love.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/william-h-macy/here-are-the-good-things-about-independent-films-they-do-the-more/) [William H. Macy](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/william-h-macy/) > [If you make something interesting, inevitably not everybody is going to like it.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/rian-johnson/if-you-make-something-interesting-inevitably-not-everybody-is-going/) [Rian Johnson](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/rian-johnson/) > [Groupon has some interesting assets.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/matt-cohler/groupon-has-some-interesting-assets/) [Matt Cohler](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/matt-cohler/) > [It's an interesting fact that fewer than 17 % of Real cats end their lives with the same name they started with. Much family…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/terry-pratchett/it-s-an-interesting-fact-that-fewer-than-17-of-real-cats-end-their/) [Terry Pratchett](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/terry-pratchett/) [Browse all 9,270 Interesting quotes ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/interesting/) ```json { "@context": "https://schema.org", "@graph": [ { "@type": "Quotation", "text": "I was doing an interview with Charlie Rose and he said, \"What do you think about Margaret Thatcher?\" - and I had not heard she had died at this point - and he said, \"Is there any kind of Shakespearian overtone here?\" I said, \"Well, actually, Julius Caesar, because ever if a politician was stabbed in the back, it was Mrs. Thatcher, by all her conspiratorial cabinet, which really did just stab her in the back.\" It's a rather interesting resonance.", "creator": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Gregory Doran" }, "isPartOf": { "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/#website" }, "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-was-doing-an-interview-with-charlie-rose-and-he-said-what-do-you/", "about": { "@type": "Thing", "name": "Interesting" }, "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-was-doing-an-interview-with-charlie-rose-and-he-said-what-do-you/#quotation", "image": { "@type": "ImageObject", "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/383/gregory-doran-30201_interesting_i-was-doing-an-interview-with-charlie-ro_1983261.jpg", "contentUrl": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/383/gregory-doran-30201_interesting_i-was-doing-an-interview-with-charlie-ro_1983261.jpg", "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/383/gregory-doran-30201_interesting_i-was-doing-an-interview-with-charlie-ro_1983261.jpg", "width": 1080, "height": 1080, "caption": "“I was doing an interview with Charlie Rose and he said, \"What do you think about Margaret Thatcher?\" - and I…” — Gregory Doran", "creditText": "SMS4Smile Quotes", "creator": { "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/#organization" } } }, { "@type": "BreadcrumbList", "itemListElement": [ { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 1, "name": "Home", "item": "https://sms4smile.com/" }, { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 2, "name": "Quotes", "item": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/" }, { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 3, "name": "Gregory Doran", "item": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/gregory-doran/" }, { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 4, "name": "I was doing an interview with...", "item": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-was-doing-an-interview-with-charlie-rose-and-he-said-what-do-you/" } ], "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/gregory-doran/i-was-doing-an-interview-with-charlie-rose-and-he-said-what-do-you/#breadcrumb" }, { "@type": "WebSite", "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/#website", "name": "SMS4Smile Quotes", "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/", "publisher": { "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/#organization" } }, { "@type": "Organization", "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/#organization", "name": "SMS4Smile Quotes", "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/", "logo": { "@type": "ImageObject", "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/wp-content/themes/sq/assets/icons/icon-512.png", "width": 512, "height": 512 } } ] } ```