--- title: "Meaning & Key Takeaway of: By the relative viewpoint (vyavahar), the…" description: "\"“By the relative viewpoint (vyavahar), the relative self (atma) is the doer, by the real viewpoint (Nischay) it is the non-doer! Therefore, the pudgal ..." image: "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/b82/dada-bhagwan-31_behavior_by-the-relative-viewpoint-vyavahar-the-r_1877334.jpg" --- # By the relative viewpoint (vyavahar), the relative self… ![“By the relative viewpoint (vyavahar), the relative self (atma) is the doer, by the real viewpoint (Nischay) it is the non-doer! Therefore, the pudgal is a non-doer by the relative viewpoint and a doer by the real viewpoint!!” quote by Dada Bhagwan](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/b82/dada-bhagwan-31_behavior_by-the-relative-viewpoint-vyavahar-the-r_1877334.jpg) [Download](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/b82/dada-bhagwan-31_behavior_by-the-relative-viewpoint-vyavahar-the-r_1877334.jpg) [Open image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/b82/dada-bhagwan-31_behavior_by-the-relative-viewpoint-vyavahar-the-r_1877334.jpg) > ““By the relative viewpoint (vyavahar), the relative self (atma) is the doer, by the real viewpoint (Nischay) it is the non-doer! Therefore, the pudgal is a non-doer by the relative viewpoint and a doer by the real viewpoint!!”” [Dada Bhagwan](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/dada-bhagwan/) ## About This Quote This interpretation was drafted with AI assistance. It is one reading of the quote, not the author's own explanation. The self can be seen as both actor and observer depending on perspective. **In simple terms:** Self can be both doer and non‑doer. Key Takeaway Recognize the dual nature of self‑action. Themes philosophy spirituality identity dualism Mood contemplative inquisitive Type theoretical philosophical When to use this quote - meditation - ethical decision making - personal growth Key Concepts self action observer relativity Questions to Reflect On - How does viewing yourself as a doer affect responsibility? - When might the non‑doer view be helpful? 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