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# Steven Chu

(1948)   Physicist

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Steven Chu is a physicist, best known for *Build Muscle Lose Fat*.

## Quick Facts About Steven Chu

Born February 28, 1948

Profession Physicist

Notable works Build Muscle Lose Fat

## About Steven Chu

Steven Chu is an American physicist and former government official. He is a Nobel laureate and was the 12th U.S. secretary of energy. He is currently the William R. Kenan Jr. Professor of Physics and Professor of Molecular and Cellular Physiology at Stanford University. He is known for his research at the University of California, Berkeley, and his research at Bell Laboratories and Stanford University regarding the cooling and trapping of atoms with laser light, for which he shared the 1997 Nobel Prize in Physics with Claude Cohen-Tannoudji and William Daniel Phillips.

##  Quotes by Steven Chu

> [Geometry was the first exciting course I remember.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/geometry-was-the-first-exciting-course-i-remember/)

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[Course](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/course/)

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> [Coal is My Worst Nightmare.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/coal-is-my-worst-nightmare/)

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[Caps](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/caps/)

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> [Of course we don't want the price of gasoline to go up, we want it to go down.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/of-course-we-don-t-want-the-price-of-gasoline-to-go-up-we-want-it-to/)

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[Climate](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/climate/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/a52/steven-chu-15304_courses_of-course-we-don-t-want-the-price-of-gas_986357.jpg)

> [Pick the right sized pot, don't pick a pot five times bigger, twice as big.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/pick-the-right-sized-pot-don-t-pick-a-pot-five-times-bigger-twice-as/)

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[Bigger](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/bigger/)

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> [I approached the bulk of my schoolwork as a chore rather than an intellectual adventure.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/i-approached-the-bulk-of-my-schoolwork-as-a-chore-rather-than-an-2/)

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[Adventure](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/adventure/)

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> [Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/somehow-we-have-to-figure-out-how-to-boost-the-price-of-gasoline-to/)

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[Boost](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/boost/)

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> [Sustainable energy is the equivalent of the U.S. moon shot.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/sustainable-energy-is-the-equivalent-of-the-u-s-moon-shot/)

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[Climate](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/climate/)

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> [The atoms become like a moth, seeking out the region of higher laser intensity.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/the-atoms-become-like-a-moth-seeking-out-the-region-of-higher-laser/)

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[Atoms](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/atoms/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/ea9/steven-chu-15304_atoms_the-atoms-become-like-a-moth-seeking-out_1916489.jpg)

> [Education in my family was not merely emphasized, it was our raison d'etre.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/education-in-my-family-was-not-merely-emphasized-it-was-our-raison-d-2/)

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[Education](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/education/)

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> [Switching to light-coloured roofs and roadways would have the equivalent effect on greenhouse gas emissions to taking one billion cars off the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/switching-to-light-coloured-roofs-and-roadways-would-have-the/)

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[Billions](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/billions/)

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> [So imagine a world 6 degrees warmer. It's not going to recognize geographical boundaries. It's not going to recognize anything. So agriculture…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/so-imagine-a-world-6-degrees-warmer-it-s-not-going-to-recognize/)

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[Agriculture](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/agriculture/)

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> [By the fourth grade, I graduated to an erector set and spent many happy hours constructing devices of unknown purpose where the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/by-the-fourth-grade-i-graduated-to-an-erector-set-and-spent-many/)

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[Constructing](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/constructing/)

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> [Let me state what the official IPCC prediction is: Sea levels could go up as much as three-quarters of a meter in…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/let-me-state-what-the-official-ipcc-prediction-is-sea-levels-could-go/)

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[Century](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/century/)

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> [What the American family does not want is to pay an increasing fraction of their budget, their precious dollars, for energy costs.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/what-the-american-family-does-not-want-is-to-pay-an-increasing/)

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[American family](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/american-family/)

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> [I performed adequately at school, but in comparison to my older brother, who set the record for the highest cumulative average for…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/i-performed-adequately-at-school-but-in-comparison-to-my-older/)

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[Adequately](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/adequately/)

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> [If I were emperor of the world, I would put the pedal to the floor on energy efficiency and conservation for the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/if-i-were-emperor-of-the-world-i-would-put-the-pedal-to-the-floor-on/)

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[Climate](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/climate/)

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> [Occasionally, I would focus on a particular school project and become obsessed with, what seemed to my mother, to be trivial details…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/occasionally-i-would-focus-on-a-particular-school-project-and-become/)

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[Being a mother](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/being-a-mother/)

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> [Education in our family was not merely emphasized, it was our raison d'etre ... In this family of accomplished scholars, I was…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/education-in-our-family-was-not-merely-emphasized-it-was-our-raison-d/)

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[Academic](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/academic/)

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> [For the better part of my last semester at Garden City High, I constructed a physical pendulum and used it to make…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/for-the-better-part-of-my-last-semester-at-garden-city-high-i/)

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[Atoms](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/atoms/)

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> [Just refrigerator efficiency saves more energy than all that we're generating from renewables, excluding hydroelectric power... I cannot impress upon you how…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/just-refrigerator-efficiency-saves-more-energy-than-all-that-we-re/)

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[Beer](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/beer/)

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> [The ideal protective layer for a lithium metal anode needs to be chemically stable to protect against the chemical reactions with the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/the-ideal-protective-layer-for-a-lithium-metal-anode-needs-to-be/)

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[Chemical reactions](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/chemical-reactions/)

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> [ I believe \[the Department of Energy\] should be judged not by the money we direct to a particular State or district, company,… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/i-believe-the-department-of-energy-should-be-judged-not-by-the-money/)

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[Accounts](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/accounts/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/5b3/steven-chu-15304_accounts_i-believe-the-department-of-energy-shoul_1292072.jpg)

> [Education in my family was not merely emphasized, it was our raison d'être. Virtually all of our aunts and uncles had Ph.D.s…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/education-in-my-family-was-not-merely-emphasized-it-was-our-raison-d/)

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[Aunt](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/aunt/)

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> [Science is really about describing the way the universe works in one aspect or another in all branches of science-how a life-form…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/science-is-really-about-describing-the-way-the-universe-works-in-one/)

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[Accounts](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/accounts/)

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> [Since I walked in the door as secretary of energy, I've been doing everything in our powers to do what we can…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/since-i-walked-in-the-door-as-secretary-of-energy-i-ve-been-doing/)

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[Climate](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/climate/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/58d/steven-chu-15304_climate_since-i-walked-in-the-door-as-secretary_270370.jpg)

> [I approached the bulk of my schoolwork as a chore rather than an intellectual adventure. The tedium was relieved by a few…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/i-approached-the-bulk-of-my-schoolwork-as-a-chore-rather-than-an/)

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[Adventure](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/adventure/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/e5b/steven-chu-15304_adventure_i-approached-the-bulk-of-my-schoolwork-a_728803.jpg)

> [ Suppose you had a small electrical fire and... a structural engineer \[looked\] at your home's wiring \[and\] reports that the wiring is… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/suppose-you-had-a-small-electrical-fire-and-a-structural-engineer/)

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[Agree](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/agree/)

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> [I've always been inspired by Dr. Martin Luther King, who articulated his Dream of an America where people are judged not by…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/i-ve-always-been-inspired-by-dr-martin-luther-king-who-articulated/)

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[America](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/america/)

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> [In the summer after kindergarten, a friend introduced me to the joys of building plastic model airplanes and warships. By the fourth…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/in-the-summer-after-kindergarten-a-friend-introduced-me-to-the-joys/)

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[Airplane](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/airplane/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/184/steven-chu-15304_airplane_in-the-summer-after-kindergarten-a-frien_888308.jpg)

> [If there is a regulation that says you have to do something-whether it be putting in seat belts, catalytic converters, clean air…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/if-there-is-a-regulation-that-says-you-have-to-do-something-whether/)

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[Air](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/air/)

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> [At Rochester, I came with the same emotions as many of the entering freshman: everything was new, exciting and a bit overwhelming,…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/at-rochester-i-came-with-the-same-emotions-as-many-of-the-entering/)

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[Brother](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/brother/)

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> [As the saying goes, the Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones; we transitioned to better solutions. The…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/as-the-saying-goes-the-stone-age-did-not-end-because-we-ran-out-of/)

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[Age](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/age/)

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> [If other countries don't impose a cost on carbon, then we will be at a disadvantage...we would look at considering perhaps duties…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/if-other-countries-don-t-impose-a-cost-on-carbon-then-we-will-be-at-a/)

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[Business](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/business/)

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> [There were only two other Chinese families in this town of 25,000, but to our parents, the determining factor was the quality…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/there-were-only-two-other-chinese-families-in-this-town-of-25-000-but/)

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[Chinese](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/chinese/)

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> [ I'm the least-educated person in my immediate family. My two other brothers have multiple advanced degrees, and I only have one. \[...\]… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/i-m-the-least-educated-person-in-my-immediate-family-my-two-other/)

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[Brother](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/brother/)

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> [I called my mother up when they announced the Nobel Prize, waiting until 7 in the morning. She said, "That's nice -…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/i-called-my-mother-up-when-they-announced-the-nobel-prize-waiting/)

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[Morning](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/morning/)

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> [However, when my parents married in 1945, China was in turmoil and the possibility of returning grew increasingly remote, and they decided…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/however-when-my-parents-married-in-1945-china-was-in-turmoil-and-the/)

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[China](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/china/)

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> [I also developed an interest in sports, and played in informal games at a nearby school yard where the neighborhood children met…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/i-also-developed-an-interest-in-sports-and-played-in-informal-games/)

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[Baseball](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/baseball/)

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> [While we cannot accurately predict the course of climate change in the coming decades, the risks we run if we don't change…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/while-we-cannot-accurately-predict-the-course-of-climate-change-in/)

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[Change](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/change/)

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> [I think the Caribbean countries face rising oceans and they face increase in the severity of hurricanes. This is something that is…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/steven-chu/i-think-the-caribbean-countries-face-rising-oceans-and-they-face/)

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[Carbon](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/carbon/)

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## Steven Chu by topic

[Climate (14)](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/climate/steven-chu/) [Energy (11)](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/energy/steven-chu/)

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