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# Kerry James Marshall

(1955)   Painter   United States

 **103** quotes in **555** categories

Kerry James Marshall says painting work is all about intellect and labour, not magic. He talks about making art that matters and points out how skin tone affects acceptance and marginalisation in society. He also notes that most magazine covers still feature white, blonde, blue‑eyed women, highlighting a persistent ideal.

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Kerry James Marshall is a painter from the United States, best known for *Kerry James Marshall*.

## Quick Facts About Kerry James Marshall

Born October 17, 1955

Nationality United States

Profession Painter

Notable works Kerry James Marshall

Known for School of Beauty, School of Culture, Past Times

Spouse Cheryl Lynn Bruce

## About Kerry James Marshall

He taught painting at the School of Art and Design at the University of Illinois at Chicago. In 2017 he was named to the Time 100 list of the world’s most influential people. He has spent much of his career in Chicago, Illinois.

## Awards &amp; Honors

MacArthur Fellows Program

##  Quotes by Kerry James Marshall

> [I try to make work about things that matter.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/i-try-to-make-work-about-things-that-matter/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/77a/kerry-james-marshall-5157_make_i-try-to-make-work-about-things-that-mat_50830.jpg)

> [One of the reasons I paint black people is because I am a black person.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/one-of-the-reasons-i-paint-black-people-is-because-i-am-a-black-person/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Artist](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/artist/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/33d/kerry-james-marshall-5157_artist_one-of-the-reasons-i-paint-black-people_2905371.jpg)

> [The revision of any kind of established model is always a political act.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/the-revision-of-any-kind-of-established-model-is-always-a-political/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/746/kerry-james-marshall-5157_act_the-revision-of-any-kind-of-established_604382.jpg)

> [The U.S. was founded as a white supremacist nation; that's just what it is.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/the-u-s-was-founded-as-a-white-supremacist-nation-that-s-just-what-it/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/a58/kerry-james-marshall-5157_founded_the-u-s-was-founded-as-a-white-supremaci_777054.jpg)

> [Working from live models is too much trouble; it takes too much time.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/working-from-live-models-is-too-much-trouble-it-takes-too-much-time/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/df4/kerry-james-marshall-5157_live_working-from-live-models-is-too-much-tro_2263448.jpg)

> [Like a lot of young people who wanted to be artists, comics were a gateway for me.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/like-a-lot-of-young-people-who-wanted-to-be-artists-comics-were-a/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Art](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/art/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/e5d/kerry-james-marshall-5157_art_like-a-lot-of-young-people-who-wanted-to_3098442.jpg)

> [Comics also led a lot of young people to science fiction.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/comics-also-led-a-lot-of-young-people-to-science-fiction/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Comics](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/comics/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/a81/kerry-james-marshall-5157_fiction_comics-also-led-a-lot-of-young-people-to_1632796.jpg)

> [There are fewer representations of black figures in the historical record.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/there-are-fewer-representations-of-black-figures-in-the-historical/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/49d/kerry-james-marshall-5157_black_there-are-fewer-representations-of-black_2198105.jpg)

> [I think the only value of being in school is that everything you do should be a problem that needs to be…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/i-think-the-only-value-of-being-in-school-is-that-everything-you-do/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Education](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/education/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/0a5/kerry-james-marshall-5157_everything_i-think-the-only-value-of-being-in-schoo_1175910.jpg)

> [I don't believe in hope. I believe in action, if I'm an apostle of anything: There are always going to be complications,…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/i-don-t-believe-in-hope-i-believe-in-action-if-i-m-an-apostle-of/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Action](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/action/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/1ba/kerry-james-marshall-5157_action_i-don-t-believe-in-hope-i-believe-in-act_2307764.jpg)

> [I came in making choices about how I deploy aesthetics and imagery strategically. It seems to me that's the only legitimate way…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/i-came-in-making-choices-about-how-i-deploy-aesthetics-and-imagery/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Aesthetics](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/aesthetics/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/c0b/kerry-james-marshall-5157_aesthetics_i-came-in-making-choices-about-how-i-dep_2428686.jpg)

> [There's nothing more special than intellect and labour that makes painting work. There's no magic there; it's information, and it's work.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/there-s-nothing-more-special-than-intellect-and-labour-that-makes/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Artist](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/artist/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/240/kerry-james-marshall-5157_artist_there-s-nothing-more-special-than-intell_5113.jpg)

> [I don't want the pictures to mean things. But the implication of the image and its relationship to the people that are…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/i-don-t-want-the-pictures-to-mean-things-but-the-implication-of-the/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/image/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/8ca/kerry-james-marshall-5157_image_i-don-t-want-the-pictures-to-mean-things_418548.jpg)

> [Comics were a place where captivating images lit your imagination and showed you that you can create new kinds of people and…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/comics-were-a-place-where-captivating-images-lit-your-imagination-and/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/994/kerry-james-marshall-5157_captivating_comics-were-a-place-where-captivating-im_2830183.jpg)

> [I think the museum should be an arena in which ideals can hash it out, fight it out, tooth and nail, for…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/i-think-the-museum-should-be-an-arena-in-which-ideals-can-hash-it-out/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/0be/kerry-james-marshall-5157_arena_i-think-the-museum-should-be-an-arena-in_2954372.jpg)

> [If you ever find yourself on a boat in the middle of the ocean, you look around in every direction and don't…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/if-you-ever-find-yourself-on-a-boat-in-the-middle-of-the-ocean-you/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Direction](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/direction/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/b48/kerry-james-marshall-5157_direction_if-you-ever-find-yourself-on-a-boat-in-t_1653410.jpg)

> [A close friend of mine described me as a radical pragmatist. I embrace this no-nonsense distinction wholeheartedly. It is a character trait…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/a-close-friend-of-mine-described-me-as-a-radical-pragmatist-i-embrace/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Character](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/character/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/b72/kerry-james-marshall-5157_character_a-close-friend-of-mine-described-me-as-a_1334348.jpg)

> [When I go to the movies, I'm expected to identify with all of the characters, and most of them are white. But…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/when-i-go-to-the-movies-i-m-expected-to-identify-with-all-of-the/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Audience](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/audience/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/239/kerry-james-marshall-5157_audience_when-i-go-to-the-movies-i-m-expected-to_436180.jpg)

> [I used to always say - and I think a lot of artists think of it this way - that when you…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/i-used-to-always-say-and-i-think-a-lot-of-artists-think-of-it-this/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Art](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/art/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/ea1/kerry-james-marshall-5157_art_i-used-to-always-say-and-i-think-a-lot-o_2885125.jpg)

> [When I started, I was aware of using the black as a rhetorical device. It's understanding that black people come in a…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/when-i-started-i-was-aware-of-using-the-black-as-a-rhetorical-device-2/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Black people](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/black-people/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/bf9/kerry-james-marshall-5157_black-people_when-i-started-i-was-aware-of-using-the_2176051.jpg)

> [When you go to an art museum, the thing you're least likely to encounter is a picture of a black person. When…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/when-you-go-to-an-art-museum-the-thing-you-re-least-likely-to/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Art](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/art/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/2b5/kerry-james-marshall-5157_art_when-you-go-to-an-art-museum-the-thing-y_1986981.jpg)

> [What you're trying to create is a certain kind of an indispensable presence, where your position in the narrative is not contingent…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/what-you-re-trying-to-create-is-a-certain-kind-of-an-indispensable/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/d2f/kerry-james-marshall-5157_create_what-you-re-trying-to-create-is-a-certai_1866970.jpg)

> [Artwork operates on two different levels: On one level there's artwork as a mode of expressivity, and then there's the other side,…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/artwork-operates-on-two-different-levels-on-one-level-there-s-artwork/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Artist](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/artist/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/cfb/kerry-james-marshall-5157_artist_artwork-operates-on-two-different-levels_150337.jpg)

> [Paintings don't just happen. I am not a proponent of the idea of an artist as someone who kind of magically makes…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/paintings-don-t-just-happen-i-am-not-a-proponent-of-the-idea-of-an/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Art](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/art/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/838/kerry-james-marshall-5157_art_paintings-don-t-just-happen-i-am-not-a-p_1385962.jpg)

> [Just like in the art museum, and notions of beauty and pleasure, if the hero is always a white guy with a…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/just-like-in-the-art-museum-and-notions-of-beauty-and-pleasure-if-the/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Art](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/art/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/e95/kerry-james-marshall-5157_art_just-like-in-the-art-museum-and-notions_3091277.jpg)

> [ If you look at the image \[ Portrait of the Artist as a Shadow of His Former Self \], it treads on… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/if-you-look-at-the-image-portrait-of-the-artist-as-a-shadow-of-his/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Art](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/art/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/584/kerry-james-marshall-5157_art_if-you-look-at-the-image-portrait-of-the_829024.jpg)

> [There's a beauty shop companion called School of Beauty, School of Culture at the Birmingham Museum of Art. I got an email…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/there-s-a-beauty-shop-companion-called-school-of-beauty-school-of/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Art](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/art/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/db6/kerry-james-marshall-5157_art_there-s-a-beauty-shop-companion-called-s_2586470.jpg)

> [The condition of visibility as it relates to black people was crucial. Connected to that, I've always been interested in science fiction…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/the-condition-of-visibility-as-it-relates-to-black-people-was-crucial/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/8fc/kerry-james-marshall-5157_black_the-condition-of-visibility-as-it-relate_3082861.jpg)

> [Part of what I am dealing with, with this blackness, is asking the question, "Where are those black people, who are as…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/part-of-what-i-am-dealing-with-with-this-blackness-is-asking-the/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/825/kerry-james-marshall-5157_asking_part-of-what-i-am-dealing-with-with-this_2072105.jpg)

> [One of the things I recognized early on, doing whatever studies of black history I have, is that even though black folks…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/one-of-the-things-i-recognized-early-on-doing-whatever-studies-of/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/7d9/kerry-james-marshall-5157_black_one-of-the-things-i-recognized-early-on_226666.jpg)

> [I just thought someone has to figure out how to break through that barrier and create a narrative for a black super…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/i-just-thought-someone-has-to-figure-out-how-to-break-through-that/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Barriers](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/barriers/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/1ff/kerry-james-marshall-5157_barriers_i-just-thought-someone-has-to-figure-out_1514810.jpg)

> [ In \[Ralph\] Ellison's case, it's more psychological than it is phenomenal, and it's conditioned by anger, animosity, and lack of desire to… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/in-ralph-ellison-s-case-it-s-more-psychological-than-it-is-phenomenal/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Animosity](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/animosity/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/a13/kerry-james-marshall-5157_animosity_in-ralph-ellison-s-case-it-s-more-psycho_338598.jpg)

> [My dream was always to be in museums. It's a big and important milestone and a fulfillment of one of my primary…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/my-dream-was-always-to-be-in-museums-it-s-a-big-and-important/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/bf4/kerry-james-marshall-5157_always_my-dream-was-always-to-be-in-museums-it_319454.jpg)

> [If I go to the museum and see white bodies, black bodies, Asian bodies, Latino bodies, then I will expect to see…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/if-i-go-to-the-museum-and-see-white-bodies-black-bodies-asian-bodies/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/04a/kerry-james-marshall-5157_go_if-i-go-to-the-museum-and-see-white-bodi_1247527.jpg)

> [You don't see black people winning Nobel prizes for physics or economics or any of the industries or institutions that shape the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/you-don-t-see-black-people-winning-nobel-prizes-for-physics-or/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Black people](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/black-people/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/fb4/kerry-james-marshall-5157_black-people_you-don-t-see-black-people-winning-nobel_931062.jpg)

> [Abstraction and representation are supposed to be going down two very different paths, one sociological and the other aesthetic.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/abstraction-and-representation-are-supposed-to-be-going-down-two-very/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Abstraction](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/abstraction/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/48a/kerry-james-marshall-5157_abstraction_abstraction-and-representation-are-suppo_1822155.jpg)

> [I see life and the world simply as an arena for competition. That's just what people do, and there are always going…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/i-see-life-and-the-world-simply-as-an-arena-for-competition-that-s/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Competition](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/competition/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/f84/kerry-james-marshall-5157_competition_i-see-life-and-the-world-simply-as-an-ar_3003686.jpg)

> [No one has a right to occupy the privileged position all the time, so it should be contested. It should always be…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/no-one-has-a-right-to-occupy-the-privileged-position-all-the-time-so/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/03e/kerry-james-marshall-5157_messy_no-one-has-a-right-to-occupy-the-privile_401085.jpg)

> [I want people to understand that this is a very calibrated image \[Portrait of the Artist as a Shadow of His Former…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/i-want-people-to-understand-that-this-is-a-very-calibrated-image/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Art](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/art/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/970/kerry-james-marshall-5157_art_i-want-people-to-understand-that-this-is_2009456.jpg)

> [What I was trying to construct was relative symmetry, where it seems clear that the shapes have arrived through consideration.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/kerry-james-marshall/what-i-was-trying-to-construct-was-relative-symmetry-where-it-seems/)

[Kerry James Marshall](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/kerry-james-marshall/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/4c3/kerry-james-marshall-5157_clear_what-i-was-trying-to-construct-was-relat_2048432.jpg)

## Kerry James Marshall by topic

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