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title: "24 Thinking Quotes By Warren MacKenzie"
description: "24 Thinking quotes by Warren MacKenzie. Plus more from Warren MacKenzie and more Thinking sayings from other authors."
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> [When you're young, you think you can do anything, and we thought.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/when-you-re-young-you-think-you-can-do-anything-and-we-thought/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [Hilda Reiss was the head of the Everyday Art Gallery. Hilda Reiss came from Germany, had trained at the original Bauhaus in…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/hilda-reiss-was-the-head-of-the-everyday-art-gallery-hilda-reiss-came/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ If you didn't know what you were trying to do, \[Robert von Neumann\] wouldn't say a word. He would just turn and… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/if-you-didn-t-know-what-you-were-trying-to-do-robert-von-neumann/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ Our main inspiration \[with Alix MacKenzie\], I think, came from the Field Museum of Natural History, because they had pieces which were… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/our-main-inspiration-with-alix-mackenzie-i-think-came-from-the-field/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ We both \[with Alixandra Kolesky MacKenzie\] got into ceramics, you might say, by the back door. Looking back on it, I think… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-both-with-alixandra-kolesky-mackenzie-got-into-ceramics-you-might/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ Those two teachers \[Kathleen Blackshear and Robert von Neumann\] were just fantastic, I thought. They never directed you in a single direction,… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/those-two-teachers-kathleen-blackshear-and-robert-von-neumann-were/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ Bernard \[Leach\] was making pots which were duplicates of his drawing, and that was a difference of approach, which I think is… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-making-pots-which-were-duplicates-of-his-drawing/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [I found out later on that was not true, that life drawing tells you a great deal about rhythm, about the structure…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-found-out-later-on-that-was-not-true-that-life-drawing-tells-you-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ In looking at these pots at the Field Museum, Alix \[MacKenzie\] and I both came to a conclusion individually but also collectively… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-looking-at-these-pots-at-the-field-museum-alix-mackenzie-and-i/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [In working on a drawing or a painting, one can rework and rework and rework and change ideas until you get it…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-working-on-a-drawing-or-a-painting-one-can-rework-and-rework-and/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [This is something which I think I have been able to communicate to both people I have taught and people that have…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/this-is-something-which-i-think-i-have-been-able-to-communicate-to/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [We never had a catalogue; we never said we were going to duplicate these pots this year and next year and the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-never-had-a-catalogue-we-never-said-we-were-going-to-duplicate/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ We thought \[with Alix MacKenzie\], if those are the kinds of pots from every culture that interest us, why would we think… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-thought-with-alix-mackenzie-if-those-are-the-kinds-of-pots-from/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [When we worked at the pottery, we did learn to make pots, that is, the physical act of making the pot. We…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/when-we-worked-at-the-pottery-we-did-learn-to-make-pots-that-is-the/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ I used to think \[Shoji\] Hamada never drew, until there was a book by Bernard \[Leach\] published about his work \[Hamada: Potter,… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-used-to-think-shoji-hamada-never-drew-until-there-was-a-book-by/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [Remember, this is back in the '40s, and the idea of a museum being a place where interested people could come in…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/remember-this-is-back-in-the-40s-and-the-idea-of-a-museum-being-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ Friends of Bernard's \[Leach\] came to visit, and when we went to London, we were given introductions to people like Lucie Rie,… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/friends-of-bernard-s-leach-came-to-visit-and-when-we-went-to-london/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [Things happen very quickly and they have to happen quickly in order to have vitality, which I think is essentially part of…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/things-happen-very-quickly-and-they-have-to-happen-quickly-in-order/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ Bernard \[Leach\] knew Ben Nicholson, Barbara Hepworth, Terry Frost, Peter Lanyon, Johnny Wells. I can think of a number of people that… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-knew-ben-nicholson-barbara-hepworth-terry-frost-peter/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ In fact, \[Bernard Leach\] was several generations removed from us. At that time we were there, I think Alix \[MacKenzie\] and I… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-fact-bernard-leach-was-several-generations-removed-from-us-at-that/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ We became more familiar with \[Bernard Leach\], and with this familiarity came, I wouldn't say contempt, but certainly an awareness that everything… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-became-more-familiar-with-bernard-leach-and-with-this-familiarity/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [Here is this ability to explore ideas, but with minute changes, and then look at the results. Often you get so excited…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/here-is-this-ability-to-explore-ideas-but-with-minute-changes-and/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ We were more fortunate than most, because \[Bernard\] Leach had been in America on a lecture tour in 1950, and we made… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-were-more-fortunate-than-most-because-bernard-leach-had-been-in/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [I think back to some of the pots we made when we first started our pottery, and they were pretty awful pots.…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-think-back-to-some-of-the-pots-we-made-when-we-first-started-our/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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## More by Warren MacKenzie

> [ \[Kathleen Blackshear\] just said, "Have you thought of looking at this?" and so on and so on and so on. And it was a… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/kathleen-blackshear-just-said-have-you-thought-of-looking-at-this-and/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ Some years ago I was working on some forms which were vase forms with a fairly narrow base, and it was after \[Hans\] Coper… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/some-years-ago-i-was-working-on-some-forms-which-were-vase-forms-with/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I found out later on that was not true, that life drawing tells you a great deal about rhythm, about the structure of a…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-found-out-later-on-that-was-not-true-that-life-drawing-tells-you-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [Remember, this is back in the '40s, and the idea of a museum being a place where interested people could come in direct contact…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/remember-this-is-back-in-the-40s-and-the-idea-of-a-museum-being-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ At the end of that two weeks Bernard \[Leach\] asked us if we would like to sit with him tending the kiln, the big… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/at-the-end-of-that-two-weeks-bernard-leach-asked-us-if-we-would-like/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I got drafted into the army and by pure chance was pushed into a silk-screen shop at this camp where I was, because they…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-got-drafted-into-the-army-and-by-pure-chance-was-pushed-into-a-silk/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ \[In the Field Museum of Natural History\] we could see very simple, primitive, hand-built pottery from Babylonia and ancient Egypt and so forth, Greece.… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-the-field-museum-of-natural-history-we-could-see-very-simple/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [Chicago is a wonderful area because it's blessed with a tremendous number of museums of various sorts, not only the Art Institute of Chicago…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/chicago-is-a-wonderful-area-because-it-s-blessed-with-a-tremendous/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ It was a wonderful opportunity. And so for two and a half years we lived with \[Bernard\] Leach. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/it-was-a-wonderful-opportunity-and-so-for-two-and-a-half-years-we/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ We thought \[with Alix MacKenzie\], if those are the kinds of pots from every culture that interest us, why would we think that it… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-thought-with-alix-mackenzie-if-those-are-the-kinds-of-pots-from/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I went to the Chicago Art Institute, which was the best painting school in the area at that time. And I took painting classes…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-went-to-the-chicago-art-institute-which-was-the-best-painting/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [It was there that we really first came in contact with the work of Shoji Hamada, who was Bernard's best friend from Japan, who…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/it-was-there-that-we-really-first-came-in-contact-with-the-work-of/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ Bernard \[Leach\] was making pots which were duplicates of his drawing, and that was a difference of approach, which I think is quite critical… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-making-pots-which-were-duplicates-of-his-drawing/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I don't know, it's very difficult if you're in a strange country to just barge in and say, "Hello, I'm Warren MacKenzie, and aren't…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-don-t-know-it-s-very-difficult-if-you-re-in-a-strange-country-to/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ \[Shoji\] Hamada seldom drew an exact drawing of a pot that he was going to make. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/shoji-hamada-seldom-drew-an-exact-drawing-of-a-pot-that-he-was-going/)

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