--- title: "5 Sybil-exposed Quotes By Colin A. Ross" description: "5 Sybil-exposed quotes by Colin A. Ross. Plus more from Colin A. Ross and more Sybil-exposed sayings from other authors." image: "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/bbd/colin-a-ross-35098_dissociative-identit_debbie-nathan-blames-the-early-symptoms_265207.jpg" --- > [“Debbie Nathan blames the early symptoms on pernicious anemia yet explains their supposed remission by Shirley’s being out of contact with Dr.…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/debbie-nathan-blames-the-early-symptoms-on-pernicious-anemia-yet/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/bbd/colin-a-ross-35098_dissociative-identit_debbie-nathan-blames-the-early-symptoms_265207.jpg) > [“A problem is that Nathan documents Shirley Mason as suffering from a variety of symptoms of a complex dissociative disorder prior to…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/a-problem-is-that-nathan-documents-shirley-mason-as-suffering-from-a/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/90d/colin-a-ross-35098_didmpd_a-problem-is-that-nathan-documents-shirl_1163788.jpg) > [“Debbie Nathan also puts a great deal of weight on a letter from Shirley Mason to Dr. Wilbur stating that her MPD…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/debbie-nathan-also-puts-a-great-deal-of-weight-on-a-letter-from/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/c6c/colin-a-ross-35098_denial_debbie-nathan-also-puts-a-great-deal-of_2010847.jpg) > [“Debbie Nathan’s thesis is that Shirley Mason was a vulnerable hysteric and was manipulated by her therapist into iatrogenic DID and false…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/debbie-nathan-s-thesis-is-that-shirley-mason-was-a-vulnerable/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/eb2/colin-a-ross-35098_abuse_debbie-nathan-s-thesis-is-that-shirley-m_3054403.jpg) > [“As a single case from half a century ago, Sybil Exposed cannot tell us anything about the reliability, validity, etiology, epidemiology, or…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/as-a-single-case-from-half-a-century-ago-sybil-exposed-cannot-tell-us/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/1e6/colin-a-ross-35098_abuse_as-a-single-case-from-half-a-century-ago_3118465.jpg) ## More by Colin A. Ross > [“On December 11, 1996 in a posting on the internet list WITCHNT@MITVMA.MIT.EDU, Dr Peter Freyd, husband of the Executive Directory of the False Memory…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/on-december-11-1996-in-a-posting-on-the-internet-list-witchnt-mitvma/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [“There have been extensive human rights violations by American psychiatrists over the last 70 years. These doctors were pad by the American taxpayer through…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/there-have-been-extensive-human-rights-violations-by-american/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [“Dr. Lois Jolyon West was cleared at Top Secret for his work on MKULTRA. West's numerous connections to the mind control network illustrate how…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/dr-lois-jolyon-west-was-cleared-at-top-secret-for-his-work-on-mkultra/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [“Debbie Nathan blames the early symptoms on pernicious anemia yet explains their supposed remission by Shirley’s being out of contact with Dr. Wilbur for…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/debbie-nathan-blames-the-early-symptoms-on-pernicious-anemia-yet/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [“The major goal of the Cold War mind control programs was to create dissociative symptoms and disorders, including full multiple personality disorder. The Manchurian…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/the-major-goal-of-the-cold-war-mind-control-programs-was-to-create/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [“A problem is that Nathan documents Shirley Mason as suffering from a variety of symptoms of a complex dissociative disorder prior to her first…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/a-problem-is-that-nathan-documents-shirley-mason-as-suffering-from-a/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [“Undiagnosed DID patients received incorrect diagnoses of schizophrenia in 25% to 40% of cases in two large series (Putnam, 1989; Ross, 1989), while in…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/undiagnosed-did-patients-received-incorrect-diagnoses-of/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [“The second factor helping to bring the dissociative disorders back into the mainstream was the Vietnam War. For sociological reasons originating outside psychology and…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/the-second-factor-helping-to-bring-the-dissociative-disorders-back/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [“Debbie Nathan also puts a great deal of weight on a letter from Shirley Mason to Dr. Wilbur stating that her MPD was made…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/debbie-nathan-also-puts-a-great-deal-of-weight-on-a-letter-from/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [ “\[ Dr. Lois Jolyon West was cleared at Top Secret for his work on MKULTRA. \] Dr. Michael Persinger \[235\], another FSMF Board Member,… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/dr-lois-jolyon-west-was-cleared-at-top-secret-for-his-work-on-mkultra-2/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [“Dr. Louis Jolyon “Jolly” West was born in New York City on October 6, 1924. He died of cancer on January 2, 1999. Dr.…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/dr-louis-jolyon-jolly-west-was-born-in-new-york-city-on-october-6/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [“Debbie Nathan’s thesis is that Shirley Mason was a vulnerable hysteric and was manipulated by her therapist into iatrogenic DID and false memories of…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/debbie-nathan-s-thesis-is-that-shirley-mason-was-a-vulnerable/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) > [“As a single case from half a century ago, Sybil Exposed cannot tell us anything about the reliability, validity, etiology, epidemiology, or typical treatment…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/colin-a-ross/as-a-single-case-from-half-a-century-ago-sybil-exposed-cannot-tell-us/) [Colin A. Ross](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/colin-a-ross/) ```json { "@context": "https://schema.org", "@graph": [ { "@type": "ItemList", "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/sybil-exposed/colin-a-ross/#itemlist", "name": "5 Sybil-exposed Quotes By Colin A. Ross", "numberOfItems": 5, "itemListElement": [ { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 1, "item": { "@type": "Quotation", "text": "“Debbie Nathan blames the early symptoms on pernicious anemia yet explains their supposed remission by Shirley’s being out of contact with Dr. Wilbur for those 9 years. But Dr. Wilbur never diagnosed a dissociative disorder in 1945. Nathan does not seem to recognize the implausibility of Dr. Wilbur creating via suggestion a complex dissociative disorder in five sessions, particularly when the doctor herself did not diagnose it. Nathan attributes Shirley’s postintegration improvement in functioning to being out of contact with Dr. Wilbur rather than to the therapy. 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The symptoms described as real by Debbie Nathan include fugue states; blank spells; spending hours playing with imaginary companions with names far beyond the age when this occurs in nontraumatized children; pretending to be “Vicky,” one of her “imaginary companions” at times; her mother calling her by the same names of alter personalities later identified in adult therapy; talking in a high, childish voice when she was no longer a child; numerous symptoms consistent with somatoform dissociation throughout her childhood and adulthood; going downtown to bars to drink with men and not remembering afterward; suddenly becoming comatose in public; and suddenly acting dramatically out of character. All of these symptoms were described to Debbie Nathan in interviews with people who knew Shirley Mason well. 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