--- title: "11 Said Quotes By Warren MacKenzie" description: "11 Said quotes by Warren MacKenzie. Plus more from Warren MacKenzie and more Said sayings from other authors." image: "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/883/warren-mackenzie-4654_painter_bernard-leach-was-as-i-said-trained-as-a_758276.jpg" --- > [ Bernard \[Leach\] was, as I said , trained as a painter and an etcher. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-as-i-said-trained-as-a-painter-and-an-etcher/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/883/warren-mackenzie-4654_painter_bernard-leach-was-as-i-said-trained-as-a_758276.jpg) > [ \[ Bernard\] Leach was the one who taught us that, because he, too, had started out as a painter and an etcher… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-the-one-who-taught-us-that-because-he-too-had/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/9e6/warren-mackenzie-4654_ceramics_bernard-leach-was-the-one-who-taught-us_830509.jpg) > [ \[Bernard Leach\] talked about painting, but we never talked about ceramics in that evening. But at the end of the evening he… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-talked-about-painting-but-we-never-talked-about/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/1bf/warren-mackenzie-4654_apprentice_bernard-leach-talked-about-painting-but_1965345.jpg) > [ \[Kathleen Blackshear\] just said, "Have you thought of looking at this?" and so on and so on and so on. And it… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/kathleen-blackshear-just-said-have-you-thought-of-looking-at-this-and/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/49b/warren-mackenzie-4654_discussion_kathleen-blackshear-just-said-have-you-t_18002.jpg) > [ We \[with Alix MacKenzie\] had decided we needed further training, and certainly Leach was the one we turned to. So we went… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-with-alix-mackenzie-had-decided-we-needed-further-training-and/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/353/warren-mackenzie-4654_courses_we-with-alix-mackenzie-had-decided-we-ne_1475255.jpg) > [I'm striving to make things which are the most exciting things I can make that will fit in people's homes. And in…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-m-striving-to-make-things-which-are-the-most-exciting-things-i-can/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/f19/warren-mackenzie-4654_answers_i-m-striving-to-make-things-which-are-th_863488.jpg) > [ We had a wonderful trip, a seven-day trip, talking and sitting in the sun and so forth \[with Bernard Leach\]. And as… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-had-a-wonderful-trip-a-seven-day-trip-talking-and-sitting-in-the/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/f06/warren-mackenzie-4654_england_we-had-a-wonderful-trip-a-seven-day-trip_1473834.jpg) > [We never had a catalogue; we never said we were going to duplicate these pots this year and next year and the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-never-had-a-catalogue-we-never-said-we-were-going-to-duplicate/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/b7b/warren-mackenzie-4654_bigs_we-never-had-a-catalogue-we-never-said-w_1043330.jpg) > [ I do remember that when we left \[Bernard Leach\] after two and a half years, we went home on a boat again… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-do-remember-that-when-we-left-bernard-leach-after-two-and-a-half/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/566/warren-mackenzie-4654_air_i-do-remember-that-when-we-left-bernard_1214561.jpg) > [ At the end of that two weeks Bernard \[Leach\] asked us if we would like to sit with him tending the kiln,… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/at-the-end-of-that-two-weeks-bernard-leach-asked-us-if-we-would-like/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/6dd/warren-mackenzie-4654_big-oil_at-the-end-of-that-two-weeks-bernard-lea_146880.jpg) > [ We became more familiar with \[Bernard Leach\], and with this familiarity came, I wouldn't say contempt, but certainly an awareness that everything… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-became-more-familiar-with-bernard-leach-and-with-this-familiarity/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) [Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/743/warren-mackenzie-4654_awareness_we-became-more-familiar-with-bernard-lea_1539867.jpg) ## Other authors on Said ## More by Warren MacKenzie > [ \[Kathleen Blackshear\] just said, "Have you thought of looking at this?" and so on and so on and so on. And it was a… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/kathleen-blackshear-just-said-have-you-thought-of-looking-at-this-and/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [ Some years ago I was working on some forms which were vase forms with a fairly narrow base, and it was after \[Hans\] Coper… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/some-years-ago-i-was-working-on-some-forms-which-were-vase-forms-with/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [I found out later on that was not true, that life drawing tells you a great deal about rhythm, about the structure of a…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-found-out-later-on-that-was-not-true-that-life-drawing-tells-you-a/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [Remember, this is back in the '40s, and the idea of a museum being a place where interested people could come in direct contact…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/remember-this-is-back-in-the-40s-and-the-idea-of-a-museum-being-a/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [ At the end of that two weeks Bernard \[Leach\] asked us if we would like to sit with him tending the kiln, the big… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/at-the-end-of-that-two-weeks-bernard-leach-asked-us-if-we-would-like/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [I got drafted into the army and by pure chance was pushed into a silk-screen shop at this camp where I was, because they…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-got-drafted-into-the-army-and-by-pure-chance-was-pushed-into-a-silk/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [ \[In the Field Museum of Natural History\] we could see very simple, primitive, hand-built pottery from Babylonia and ancient Egypt and so forth, Greece.… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-the-field-museum-of-natural-history-we-could-see-very-simple/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [Chicago is a wonderful area because it's blessed with a tremendous number of museums of various sorts, not only the Art Institute of Chicago…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/chicago-is-a-wonderful-area-because-it-s-blessed-with-a-tremendous/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [ It was a wonderful opportunity. And so for two and a half years we lived with \[Bernard\] Leach. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/it-was-a-wonderful-opportunity-and-so-for-two-and-a-half-years-we/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [ We thought \[with Alix MacKenzie\], if those are the kinds of pots from every culture that interest us, why would we think that it… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-thought-with-alix-mackenzie-if-those-are-the-kinds-of-pots-from/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [I went to the Chicago Art Institute, which was the best painting school in the area at that time. And I took painting classes…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-went-to-the-chicago-art-institute-which-was-the-best-painting/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [It was there that we really first came in contact with the work of Shoji Hamada, who was Bernard's best friend from Japan, who…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/it-was-there-that-we-really-first-came-in-contact-with-the-work-of/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [ Bernard \[Leach\] was making pots which were duplicates of his drawing, and that was a difference of approach, which I think is quite critical… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-making-pots-which-were-duplicates-of-his-drawing/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [I don't know, it's very difficult if you're in a strange country to just barge in and say, "Hello, I'm Warren MacKenzie, and aren't…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-don-t-know-it-s-very-difficult-if-you-re-in-a-strange-country-to/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) > [ \[Shoji\] Hamada seldom drew an exact drawing of a pot that he was going to make. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/shoji-hamada-seldom-drew-an-exact-drawing-of-a-pot-that-he-was-going/) [Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/) ```json { "@context": "https://schema.org", "@graph": [ { "@type": "ItemList", "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/about/said/warren-mackenzie/#itemlist", "name": "11 Said Quotes By Warren MacKenzie", "numberOfItems": 11, "itemListElement": [ { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 1, "item": { "@type": "Quotation", "text": "Bernard [Leach] was, as I said , trained as a painter and an etcher.", "creator": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Warren MacKenzie" }, "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-as-i-said-trained-as-a-painter-and-an-etcher/", "image": { "@type": "ImageObject", "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/883/warren-mackenzie-4654_painter_bernard-leach-was-as-i-said-trained-as-a_758276.jpg", "contentUrl": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/883/warren-mackenzie-4654_painter_bernard-leach-was-as-i-said-trained-as-a_758276.jpg", "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/883/warren-mackenzie-4654_painter_bernard-leach-was-as-i-said-trained-as-a_758276.jpg", "width": 1080, "height": 1080, "caption": "“Bernard [Leach] was, as I said , trained as a painter and an etcher.” — Warren MacKenzie", "creditText": "SMS4Smile Quotes", "creator": { "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/#organization" } } } }, { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 2, "item": { "@type": "Quotation", "text": "[ Bernard] Leach was the one who taught us that, because he, too, had started out as a painter and an etcher and had only gotten into ceramics by chance when he was in Japan trying to teach the Japanese how to do etching, which, as he said, they were not ready for yet.", "creator": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Warren MacKenzie" }, "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-the-one-who-taught-us-that-because-he-too-had/", "image": { "@type": "ImageObject", "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/9e6/warren-mackenzie-4654_ceramics_bernard-leach-was-the-one-who-taught-us_830509.jpg", "contentUrl": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/9e6/warren-mackenzie-4654_ceramics_bernard-leach-was-the-one-who-taught-us_830509.jpg", "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/9e6/warren-mackenzie-4654_ceramics_bernard-leach-was-the-one-who-taught-us_830509.jpg", "width": 1080, "height": 1080, "caption": "“[ Bernard] Leach was the one who taught us that, because he, too, had started out as a painter and an etcher…” — Warren MacKenzie", "creditText": "SMS4Smile Quotes", "creator": { "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/#organization" } } } }, { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 3, "item": { "@type": "Quotation", "text": "[Bernard Leach] talked about painting, but we never talked about ceramics in that evening. 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And in that respect, working on the wheel is economically about the only answer I know, because one can, as Leach said, make 50 pots in a day. You can make 100 pots in a day. 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And as we were approaching England, Leach said, \"Do you have a place to live?\" And we said, \"No, we didn't.\" We hadn't worried about that. But Bernard had just separated from his second wife, which we had not realized, and Bernard was a person who could not stand to live alone. 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We did make many pots which were repeated, but we allowed them to change and to grow as we changed and grew, and I think that was the big difference. And that's all right; we were working for ourselves. We didn't have anybody we had to pay.", "creator": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Warren MacKenzie" }, "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-never-had-a-catalogue-we-never-said-we-were-going-to-duplicate/", "image": { "@type": "ImageObject", "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/b7b/warren-mackenzie-4654_bigs_we-never-had-a-catalogue-we-never-said-w_1043330.jpg", "contentUrl": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/b7b/warren-mackenzie-4654_bigs_we-never-had-a-catalogue-we-never-said-w_1043330.jpg", "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/b7b/warren-mackenzie-4654_bigs_we-never-had-a-catalogue-we-never-said-w_1043330.jpg", "width": 1080, "height": 1080, "caption": "“We never had a catalogue; we never said we were going to duplicate these pots this year and next year and…” — Warren MacKenzie", "creditText": "SMS4Smile Quotes", "creator": { "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/#organization" } } } }, { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 9, "item": { "@type": "Quotation", "text": "I do remember that when we left [Bernard Leach] after two and a half years, we went home on a boat again - this was before air travel became really easy - and Alix [MacKenzie] turned to me and she said, \"You know, that was a great two years of training, but that's not the way we're going to run our pottery.\"", "creator": { "@type": "Person", "name": "Warren MacKenzie" }, "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-do-remember-that-when-we-left-bernard-leach-after-two-and-a-half/", "image": { "@type": "ImageObject", "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/566/warren-mackenzie-4654_air_i-do-remember-that-when-we-left-bernard_1214561.jpg", "contentUrl": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/566/warren-mackenzie-4654_air_i-do-remember-that-when-we-left-bernard_1214561.jpg", "url": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/566/warren-mackenzie-4654_air_i-do-remember-that-when-we-left-bernard_1214561.jpg", "width": 1080, "height": 1080, "caption": "“I do remember that when we left [Bernard Leach] after two and a half years, we went home on a boat again…” — Warren MacKenzie", "creditText": "SMS4Smile Quotes", "creator": { "@id": "https://sms4smile.com/quotes/#organization" } } } }, { "@type": "ListItem", "position": 10, "item": { "@type": "Quotation", "text": "At the end of that two weeks Bernard [Leach] asked us if we would like to sit with him tending the kiln, the big oil-fired kiln that they had. He was still sitting what we call a kiln watch at that time, and he wondered if we would like to sit the watch with him and talk. So naturally this was our last opportunity to talk with him, so we said yes. 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