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title: "32 Pot Quotes By Warren MacKenzie"
description: "32 Pot quotes by Warren MacKenzie. Plus more from Warren MacKenzie and more Pot sayings from other authors."
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> [Every pot is not going to be a masterpiece.](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/every-pot-is-not-going-to-be-a-masterpiece/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ \[Shoji\] Hamada seldom drew an exact drawing of a pot that he was going to make. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/shoji-hamada-seldom-drew-an-exact-drawing-of-a-pot-that-he-was-going/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ Bernard's \[Leach\] drawings delineated every little accent on the pot, every subtle curve and change of angle and proportion and all. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-s-leach-drawings-delineated-every-little-accent-on-the-pot/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [So I very quickly stopped almost all decoration. I was interested in the three-dimensional form of the pots, but my decoration was…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/so-i-very-quickly-stopped-almost-all-decoration-i-was-interested-in/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ \[My pots \] are not like \[Hans\] Coper's at all, but the idea came from seeing catalogue of his work, although at… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/my-pots-are-not-like-hans-coper-s-at-all-but-the-idea-came-from/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [Eventually I gave up teaching at the St. Paul Gallery because of disagreements with the philosophy of that museum, and I got…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/eventually-i-gave-up-teaching-at-the-st-paul-gallery-because-of/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [I find it really enriching to make pots which people are using and which they come in contact with, not only visually…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-find-it-really-enriching-to-make-pots-which-people-are-using-and/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [I'm striving to make things which are the most exciting things I can make that will fit in people's homes. And in…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-m-striving-to-make-things-which-are-the-most-exciting-things-i-can/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ We were living with Bernard \[Leach\] in his home. He had a fantastic collection of early English and Japanese and Chinese and… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-were-living-with-bernard-leach-in-his-home-he-had-a-fantastic/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [We could make our own pots on the weekends and in the evenings, and we used to do that, and these would…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-could-make-our-own-pots-on-the-weekends-and-in-the-evenings-and-we/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [Since your time is your main involvement here - I mean, the clay doesn't cost very much. Even the glaze and the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/since-your-time-is-your-main-involvement-here-i-mean-the-clay-doesn-t/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ When Bernard \[Leach\] wrote his book, he wrote about the fact that even when pots are made in a series, there is… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/when-bernard-leach-wrote-his-book-he-wrote-about-the-fact-that-even/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [This is something which I think I have been able to communicate to both people I have taught and people that have…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/this-is-something-which-i-think-i-have-been-able-to-communicate-to/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [We were working from very exact models and dimensions and weights of clay to make these pots which had been designed some…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-were-working-from-very-exact-models-and-dimensions-and-weights-of/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ In looking at these pots at the Field Museum, Alix \[MacKenzie\] and I both came to a conclusion individually but also collectively… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-looking-at-these-pots-at-the-field-museum-alix-mackenzie-and-i/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [If you press-mold a pot or if you slab-build a pot, the work has got to take much, much, much longer than…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/if-you-press-mold-a-pot-or-if-you-slab-build-a-pot-the-work-has-got/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ If \[Bernard Leach\] didn't like the drawing, he'd X it out and do another one and change the form a little bit.… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/if-bernard-leach-didn-t-like-the-drawing-he-d-x-it-out-and-do-another/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ \[Bernard Leach\] was an incredible draftsman, and at the end of breakfast time, for instance, he would push his plate back, and… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-an-incredible-draftsman-and-at-the-end-of-breakfast/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ In fact, when Bernard \[Leach\] would be called away to go up to London for something and we'd be living alone for… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-fact-when-bernard-leach-would-be-called-away-to-go-up-to-london/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [We never had a catalogue; we never said we were going to duplicate these pots this year and next year and the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-never-had-a-catalogue-we-never-said-we-were-going-to-duplicate/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [I make a lot of pots in a year's time and some of them are good and some of them are mediocre…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-make-a-lot-of-pots-in-a-year-s-time-and-some-of-them-are-good-and/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ We did respect \[Bernard Leach\], although we also were willing to challenge ideas and at least put forth our feelings about the… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-did-respect-bernard-leach-although-we-also-were-willing-to/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ We thought \[with Alix MacKenzie\], if those are the kinds of pots from every culture that interest us, why would we think… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-thought-with-alix-mackenzie-if-those-are-the-kinds-of-pots-from/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ Bernard \[Leach\] was making pots which were duplicates of his drawing, and that was a difference of approach, which I think is… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-making-pots-which-were-duplicates-of-his-drawing/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [I found out later on that was not true, that life drawing tells you a great deal about rhythm, about the structure…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-found-out-later-on-that-was-not-true-that-life-drawing-tells-you-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ Finally if I had a pot that needed decoration, I would hand it to Alix \[MacKenzie\] and I would say, "Can you… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/finally-if-i-had-a-pot-that-needed-decoration-i-would-hand-it-to-alix/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ Other thing about \[Field Museum of Natural History\] which inspired was that in a group of pots you wouldn't see a single… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/other-thing-about-field-museum-of-natural-history-which-inspired-was/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [When we worked at the pottery, we did learn to make pots, that is, the physical act of making the pot. We…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/when-we-worked-at-the-pottery-we-did-learn-to-make-pots-that-is-the/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ Looking back on it now, I understand why that was not possible \[to express ourselves\], because the pottery employed a dozen people,… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/looking-back-on-it-now-i-understand-why-that-was-not-possible-to/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [Things happen very quickly and they have to happen quickly in order to have vitality, which I think is essentially part of…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/things-happen-very-quickly-and-they-have-to-happen-quickly-in-order/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [I think back to some of the pots we made when we first started our pottery, and they were pretty awful pots.…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-think-back-to-some-of-the-pots-we-made-when-we-first-started-our/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ \[Shoji\] Hamada's \[drawings\] were little one-line notations of something he wanted to remember about a pot or a piece of furniture or… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/shoji-hamada-s-drawings-were-little-one-line-notations-of-something/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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## Other authors on Pot

## More by Warren MacKenzie

> [ \[Kathleen Blackshear\] just said, "Have you thought of looking at this?" and so on and so on and so on. And it was a… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/kathleen-blackshear-just-said-have-you-thought-of-looking-at-this-and/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ Some years ago I was working on some forms which were vase forms with a fairly narrow base, and it was after \[Hans\] Coper… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/some-years-ago-i-was-working-on-some-forms-which-were-vase-forms-with/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I found out later on that was not true, that life drawing tells you a great deal about rhythm, about the structure of a…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-found-out-later-on-that-was-not-true-that-life-drawing-tells-you-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [Remember, this is back in the '40s, and the idea of a museum being a place where interested people could come in direct contact…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/remember-this-is-back-in-the-40s-and-the-idea-of-a-museum-being-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ At the end of that two weeks Bernard \[Leach\] asked us if we would like to sit with him tending the kiln, the big… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/at-the-end-of-that-two-weeks-bernard-leach-asked-us-if-we-would-like/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I got drafted into the army and by pure chance was pushed into a silk-screen shop at this camp where I was, because they…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-got-drafted-into-the-army-and-by-pure-chance-was-pushed-into-a-silk/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ \[In the Field Museum of Natural History\] we could see very simple, primitive, hand-built pottery from Babylonia and ancient Egypt and so forth, Greece.… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-the-field-museum-of-natural-history-we-could-see-very-simple/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [Chicago is a wonderful area because it's blessed with a tremendous number of museums of various sorts, not only the Art Institute of Chicago…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/chicago-is-a-wonderful-area-because-it-s-blessed-with-a-tremendous/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ It was a wonderful opportunity. And so for two and a half years we lived with \[Bernard\] Leach. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/it-was-a-wonderful-opportunity-and-so-for-two-and-a-half-years-we/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ We thought \[with Alix MacKenzie\], if those are the kinds of pots from every culture that interest us, why would we think that it… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-thought-with-alix-mackenzie-if-those-are-the-kinds-of-pots-from/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I went to the Chicago Art Institute, which was the best painting school in the area at that time. And I took painting classes…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-went-to-the-chicago-art-institute-which-was-the-best-painting/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [It was there that we really first came in contact with the work of Shoji Hamada, who was Bernard's best friend from Japan, who…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/it-was-there-that-we-really-first-came-in-contact-with-the-work-of/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ Bernard \[Leach\] was making pots which were duplicates of his drawing, and that was a difference of approach, which I think is quite critical… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-making-pots-which-were-duplicates-of-his-drawing/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I don't know, it's very difficult if you're in a strange country to just barge in and say, "Hello, I'm Warren MacKenzie, and aren't…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-don-t-know-it-s-very-difficult-if-you-re-in-a-strange-country-to/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ \[Shoji\] Hamada seldom drew an exact drawing of a pot that he was going to make. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/shoji-hamada-seldom-drew-an-exact-drawing-of-a-pot-that-he-was-going/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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