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title: "9 Clay Quotes By Warren MacKenzie"
description: "9 Clay quotes by Warren MacKenzie. Plus more from Warren MacKenzie and more Clay sayings from other authors."
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> [In fact, I believe to a certain extent a person today who starts with just clay, with no drawing and no painting…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-fact-i-believe-to-a-certain-extent-a-person-today-who-starts-with/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/a19/warren-mackenzie-4654_artist_in-fact-i-believe-to-a-certain-extent-a_505302.jpg)

> [Since your time is your main involvement here - I mean, the clay doesn't cost very much. Even the glaze and the…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/since-your-time-is-your-main-involvement-here-i-mean-the-clay-doesn-t/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/57a/warren-mackenzie-4654_clay_since-your-time-is-your-main-involvement_2542646.jpg)

> [In working on a drawing or a painting, one can rework and rework and rework and change ideas until you get it…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-working-on-a-drawing-or-a-painting-one-can-rework-and-rework-and/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/bd4/warren-mackenzie-4654_clay_in-working-on-a-drawing-or-a-painting-on_2131037.jpg)

> [ What I didn't know at the time \[of my scholarship\] was that the ceramic class was not really a very good class.… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/what-i-didn-t-know-at-the-time-of-my-scholarship-was-that-the-ceramic/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/b8d/warren-mackenzie-4654_art_what-i-didn-t-know-at-the-time-of-my-sch_1457260.jpg)

> [ When Bernard \[Leach\] wrote his book, he wrote about the fact that even when pots are made in a series, there is… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/when-bernard-leach-wrote-his-book-he-wrote-about-the-fact-that-even/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/95c/warren-mackenzie-4654_book_when-bernard-leach-wrote-his-book-he-wro_1910353.jpg)

> [We were working from very exact models and dimensions and weights of clay to make these pots which had been designed some…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-were-working-from-very-exact-models-and-dimensions-and-weights-of/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/3ce/warren-mackenzie-4654_able_we-were-working-from-very-exact-models-a_2464088.jpg)

> [ \[Shoji\] Hamada's \[drawings\] were little one-line notations of something he wanted to remember about a pot or a piece of furniture or… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/shoji-hamada-s-drawings-were-little-one-line-notations-of-something/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/f43/warren-mackenzie-4654_artistic_shoji-hamada-s-drawings-were-little-one_2030891.jpg)

> [When we worked at the pottery, we did learn to make pots, that is, the physical act of making the pot. We…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/when-we-worked-at-the-pottery-we-did-learn-to-make-pots-that-is-the/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/dcf/warren-mackenzie-4654_challenges_when-we-worked-at-the-pottery-we-did-lea_725315.jpg)

> [ In the Leach Pottery we did most of our work on the wheel. \[Bernard\] Leach did a little work in the studio,… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-the-leach-pottery-we-did-most-of-our-work-on-the-wheel-bernard/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

[Image](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/i/3a8/warren-mackenzie-4654_boxes_in-the-leach-pottery-we-did-most-of-our_447338.jpg)

## Other authors on Clay

## More by Warren MacKenzie

> [ \[Kathleen Blackshear\] just said, "Have you thought of looking at this?" and so on and so on and so on. And it was a… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/kathleen-blackshear-just-said-have-you-thought-of-looking-at-this-and/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ Some years ago I was working on some forms which were vase forms with a fairly narrow base, and it was after \[Hans\] Coper… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/some-years-ago-i-was-working-on-some-forms-which-were-vase-forms-with/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I found out later on that was not true, that life drawing tells you a great deal about rhythm, about the structure of a…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-found-out-later-on-that-was-not-true-that-life-drawing-tells-you-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [Remember, this is back in the '40s, and the idea of a museum being a place where interested people could come in direct contact…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/remember-this-is-back-in-the-40s-and-the-idea-of-a-museum-being-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ At the end of that two weeks Bernard \[Leach\] asked us if we would like to sit with him tending the kiln, the big… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/at-the-end-of-that-two-weeks-bernard-leach-asked-us-if-we-would-like/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I got drafted into the army and by pure chance was pushed into a silk-screen shop at this camp where I was, because they…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-got-drafted-into-the-army-and-by-pure-chance-was-pushed-into-a-silk/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ \[In the Field Museum of Natural History\] we could see very simple, primitive, hand-built pottery from Babylonia and ancient Egypt and so forth, Greece.… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-the-field-museum-of-natural-history-we-could-see-very-simple/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [Chicago is a wonderful area because it's blessed with a tremendous number of museums of various sorts, not only the Art Institute of Chicago…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/chicago-is-a-wonderful-area-because-it-s-blessed-with-a-tremendous/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ It was a wonderful opportunity. And so for two and a half years we lived with \[Bernard\] Leach. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/it-was-a-wonderful-opportunity-and-so-for-two-and-a-half-years-we/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ We thought \[with Alix MacKenzie\], if those are the kinds of pots from every culture that interest us, why would we think that it… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-thought-with-alix-mackenzie-if-those-are-the-kinds-of-pots-from/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I went to the Chicago Art Institute, which was the best painting school in the area at that time. And I took painting classes…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-went-to-the-chicago-art-institute-which-was-the-best-painting/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [It was there that we really first came in contact with the work of Shoji Hamada, who was Bernard's best friend from Japan, who…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/it-was-there-that-we-really-first-came-in-contact-with-the-work-of/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ Bernard \[Leach\] was making pots which were duplicates of his drawing, and that was a difference of approach, which I think is quite critical… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-making-pots-which-were-duplicates-of-his-drawing/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I don't know, it's very difficult if you're in a strange country to just barge in and say, "Hello, I'm Warren MacKenzie, and aren't…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-don-t-know-it-s-very-difficult-if-you-re-in-a-strange-country-to/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ \[Shoji\] Hamada seldom drew an exact drawing of a pot that he was going to make. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/shoji-hamada-seldom-drew-an-exact-drawing-of-a-pot-that-he-was-going/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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