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title: "24 Artist Quotes By Warren MacKenzie"
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> [Robert von Neumann taught painting, and when I finally got into a painting class of his, he reacted in much the same…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/robert-von-neumann-taught-painting-and-when-i-finally-got-into-a/)

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> [ I was a very hard-edged geometric painter, strongly influenced by \[Piet\] Mondrian and \[Theo\] van Doesburg and that sort of thing. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-was-a-very-hard-edged-geometric-painter-strongly-influenced-by-piet/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [So I very quickly stopped almost all decoration. I was interested in the three-dimensional form of the pots, but my decoration was…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/so-i-very-quickly-stopped-almost-all-decoration-i-was-interested-in/)

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> [ \[Sculpturing\] didn't stick with me. I never felt I wanted to go on with that. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/sculpturing-didn-t-stick-with-me-i-never-felt-i-wanted-to-go-on-with/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [There were a lot of artists in St. Ives. In fact, since the time of Whistler, St. Ives has been noted as…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/there-were-a-lot-of-artists-in-st-ives-in-fact-since-the-time-of/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ I've been influenced by someone or \[English artists\] work. I mentioned Hans Coper as an example. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-ve-been-influenced-by-someone-or-english-artists-work-i-mentioned/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [I thought, oh, I'm going to be a painter. And eventually my family had moved near Chicago, and when I graduated from…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-thought-oh-i-m-going-to-be-a-painter-and-eventually-my-family-had/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ \[St. Ives\] is a wonderful place to live. It's a small fishing town and one can live there inexpensively. There's a sympathetic… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/st-ives-is-a-wonderful-place-to-live-it-s-a-small-fishing-town-and/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ I took a number of graphic courses, lithography and etching and wood engraving \[at Art Institute\]. And particularly as I got more… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-took-a-number-of-graphic-courses-lithography-and-etching-and-wood/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [I started to do silk-screen in the early days of my painting training, due to a woman who taught art history at…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-started-to-do-silk-screen-in-the-early-days-of-my-painting-training/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [I found out later on that was not true, that life drawing tells you a great deal about rhythm, about the structure…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-found-out-later-on-that-was-not-true-that-life-drawing-tells-you-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [In fact, I believe to a certain extent a person today who starts with just clay, with no drawing and no painting…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-fact-i-believe-to-a-certain-extent-a-person-today-who-starts-with/)

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> [ At that \[childhood\] time, of course, if you were involved in art, it was going to be drawing and painting, because that's… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/at-that-childhood-time-of-course-if-you-were-involved-in-art-it-was/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [When I was in school in the Art Institute, we had several problems during the course of the time we were taking…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/when-i-was-in-school-in-the-art-institute-we-had-several-problems/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [Eventually I gave up teaching at the St. Paul Gallery because of disagreements with the philosophy of that museum, and I got…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/eventually-i-gave-up-teaching-at-the-st-paul-gallery-because-of/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [In working on a drawing or a painting, one can rework and rework and rework and change ideas until you get it…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-working-on-a-drawing-or-a-painting-one-can-rework-and-rework-and/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ There was a school in Chicago called the School of Design. This was started by \[Laszló\] Moholy-Nagy, and it was a wonderful… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/there-was-a-school-in-chicago-called-the-school-of-design-this-was/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [Some years ago I was working on some forms which were vase forms with a fairly narrow base, and it was after…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/some-years-ago-i-was-working-on-some-forms-which-were-vase-forms-with/)

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> [I thought I was going to be able to use my painting ideas as decoration on pottery, but my painting did not…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-thought-i-was-going-to-be-able-to-use-my-painting-ideas-as/)

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> [I don't know, it's very difficult if you're in a strange country to just barge in and say, "Hello, I'm Warren MacKenzie,…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-don-t-know-it-s-very-difficult-if-you-re-in-a-strange-country-to/)

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> [If you take Lucie Rie and Hans Coper, their work didn't even relate to what we were trying to do, because they…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/if-you-take-lucie-rie-and-hans-coper-their-work-didn-t-even-relate-to/)

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> [ Bernard \[Leach\] knew Ben Nicholson, Barbara Hepworth, Terry Frost, Peter Lanyon, Johnny Wells. I can think of a number of people that… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-knew-ben-nicholson-barbara-hepworth-terry-frost-peter/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ \[My pots \] are not like \[Hans\] Coper's at all, but the idea came from seeing catalogue of his work, although at… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/my-pots-are-not-like-hans-coper-s-at-all-but-the-idea-came-from/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

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> [ Alix \[MacKenzie\] was a looser, more linear painter, dealing with amoebic forms, let's say, close to \[Joan\] Miró as opposed to my… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/alix-mackenzie-was-a-looser-more-linear-painter-dealing-with-amoebic/)

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## More by Warren MacKenzie

> [ \[Kathleen Blackshear\] just said, "Have you thought of looking at this?" and so on and so on and so on. And it was a… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/kathleen-blackshear-just-said-have-you-thought-of-looking-at-this-and/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ Some years ago I was working on some forms which were vase forms with a fairly narrow base, and it was after \[Hans\] Coper… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/some-years-ago-i-was-working-on-some-forms-which-were-vase-forms-with/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I found out later on that was not true, that life drawing tells you a great deal about rhythm, about the structure of a…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-found-out-later-on-that-was-not-true-that-life-drawing-tells-you-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [Remember, this is back in the '40s, and the idea of a museum being a place where interested people could come in direct contact…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/remember-this-is-back-in-the-40s-and-the-idea-of-a-museum-being-a/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ At the end of that two weeks Bernard \[Leach\] asked us if we would like to sit with him tending the kiln, the big… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/at-the-end-of-that-two-weeks-bernard-leach-asked-us-if-we-would-like/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I got drafted into the army and by pure chance was pushed into a silk-screen shop at this camp where I was, because they…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-got-drafted-into-the-army-and-by-pure-chance-was-pushed-into-a-silk/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ \[In the Field Museum of Natural History\] we could see very simple, primitive, hand-built pottery from Babylonia and ancient Egypt and so forth, Greece.… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/in-the-field-museum-of-natural-history-we-could-see-very-simple/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [Chicago is a wonderful area because it's blessed with a tremendous number of museums of various sorts, not only the Art Institute of Chicago…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/chicago-is-a-wonderful-area-because-it-s-blessed-with-a-tremendous/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ It was a wonderful opportunity. And so for two and a half years we lived with \[Bernard\] Leach. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/it-was-a-wonderful-opportunity-and-so-for-two-and-a-half-years-we/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ We thought \[with Alix MacKenzie\], if those are the kinds of pots from every culture that interest us, why would we think that it… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/we-thought-with-alix-mackenzie-if-those-are-the-kinds-of-pots-from/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [I went to the Chicago Art Institute, which was the best painting school in the area at that time. And I took painting classes…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-went-to-the-chicago-art-institute-which-was-the-best-painting/)

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> [It was there that we really first came in contact with the work of Shoji Hamada, who was Bernard's best friend from Japan, who…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/it-was-there-that-we-really-first-came-in-contact-with-the-work-of/)

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> [ Bernard \[Leach\] was making pots which were duplicates of his drawing, and that was a difference of approach, which I think is quite critical… ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/bernard-leach-was-making-pots-which-were-duplicates-of-his-drawing/)

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> [I don't know, it's very difficult if you're in a strange country to just barge in and say, "Hello, I'm Warren MacKenzie, and aren't…](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/i-don-t-know-it-s-very-difficult-if-you-re-in-a-strange-country-to/)

[Warren MacKenzie](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/author/warren-mackenzie/)

> [ \[Shoji\] Hamada seldom drew an exact drawing of a pot that he was going to make. ](https://sms4smile.com/quotes/warren-mackenzie/shoji-hamada-seldom-drew-an-exact-drawing-of-a-pot-that-he-was-going/)

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